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Forum Index : Microcontroller and PC projects : PicoRocks - A Teaser
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| Volhout Guru  Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hans, Martin, others... To make the keyboard game play come closer to the NES controller gameplay, set the keyboard delay to minimum (the NES controller is far more responsive with the default keyboard settings). OPTION KEYBOARD xx,0,0,0,0 Where xx = "UK" or "US" or whatever code you use. Volhout P.S. I have a version now where the PS2 keyboard is as fast as the NES controller, using MM.INFO(PS2). But... it only works with PS2 keyboard, and not anymore with the USB connection to the PC (console). So I am not even sure if it will work on the new CMM1.5 (Pico with USB keyboarrd). Maybe this is not the way forward... Edited 2024-07-30 16:55 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4036 |
I have a vague recollection that the PicoMite USB firmware's (and thus CMM 1.5) may include support for KEYDOWN like the CMM2 does. Best wishes, Tom Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hi Tom, Thanks for the tip. I'll have a check. I'll have to test that KEYDOWN. Not sure it is just as fast. I may have to build a CMM1.5 first...  It could be a solution though, because I could sure use a KEYUP function (MM.INFO(PS2) has that), to prevent the player to fire salvo's unintended. Volhout Edited 2024-07-30 21:24 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4036 |
I got rocks9 "working" on MMB4L, but it's complete chaos, too fast, sometimes asteroids just sit where they are and spin, sometimes the UFO is static, the ship's acceleration is ridiculous. Not sure which of this is MMB4L bugs, so will have to try and find time to dust off my PicoMiteVGA for comparison. EDIT: ... it's got no rate limiting has it? hence MMB4L is saying 5-6 ms per frame (which I don't necessarily believe), what do you get on the PicoMite. Best wishes, Tom Edited 2024-07-31 03:25 by thwill Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hi Tom, This is the status of the game. Asteroids and saucers have random speed, so 0 is possible. The loop time is not controlled, so it can be ridiculously fast on mmb4l. It is on the roadmap to straighten this out. Als ufo moves are random, in real game they are flat, 30 degrees up or 30 degrees down. Ufos have limitted life. Have all of that on todo. Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
Tom on Picomite i get 15-40 ms/Frame depending on the number of rocks cheers martin 'no comment |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4036 |
Thanks @Volhout & @Martin H, It sounds like (in this respect at least) MMB4L is behaving and I shall await further developments on Pico-Rocks. Best wishes, Tom Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hi Tom, others, Please try attached. This version should have 30ms per frame minimum, on MMB4L that will be a constant, on pico it goes up to 70ms. It has additional sound effects implemented, the ufo's behave more like the arcade, but on a picomiteVGA it is not as responsive as the original arcade. Bullets do not wrap around the screen. I have decided against that since I do not fancy the gameplay. I tried it, but like current better. Hans: there is a single line to disable NES controller. NES_Controller=1 'set to 0 for keyboard control Still a lot to do. Volhout rocks11.zip Edited 2024-07-31 23:37 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2120 |
I changed the bullets because I couldn't see the bullets sub DrawBullet local i for i=0 to 5 'if bult(i,0) then pixel bult(i,1),bult(i,2) if bult(i,0) then box bult(i,1)-1,bult(i,2)-1,3,3,1,rgb(white) next end sub more visible and doesn't slow game play that's noticeable Edited 2024-08-01 02:05 by stanleyella |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2120 |
I thought this would get rid of stationary rock but it didn't for i = 1 to 8'10 trock(i) = 1 + (k and 3) ' rock type (0=doesn't exist) rock(i,0) = 2 + int(rnd*6)' rock size @Volhout *2 do 'initial place rocks 100 pix away from ship rock(i,2) = rnd*MM.HRES ' x location rock(i,3) = rnd*MM.VRES ' y location loop while ((rock(i,2)-MM.HRES/2)^2 + (rock(i,3)-MM.VRES/2)^2)<100*100 do rock(i,4) = 1-rnd*2 ' x velocity loop until rock(i,4)<>0 do rock(i,5) = 1-rnd*2 ' y velocity loop until rock(i,5)<>0 rock(i,6) = rnd*360 ' starting angle rock(i,7) = 3-rnd*6 ' rotation speed inc k next |
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vegipete Guru Joined: 29/01/2013 Location: CanadaPosts: 1109 |
I wonder. The PIXEL command accepts arrays. What would the speed be like if the array version were used to draw all bullets each time, with non-existent bullets drawn at, say, 0,0? Then the entire loop structure and the IF statement could be removed. (This should work with the BOX command too.) Also, we have the available the command MATH C_ADD array1!(), array2!(), array3!(). This would allow updating bullet and asteroid positions in one statement (each), removing another pair of loop + if structures. Visit Vegipete's *Mite Library for cool programs. |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Are you sure you are running the latest code ? This is the "rocks11.bas" sub DrawBullet local i for i=0 to buls 'if bult(i,0) then pixel bult(i,1),bult(i,2) if bult(i,0) then box bult(i,1),bult(i,2),2,2 next end sub Version "rocks11" already uses a box command for larger bullets. Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Very good suggestion. I am looking for ways to save time, since the loop slows down more and more. Would you be willing to experiment with that Pete ? Please do so.. I appreciate the help. If you need to re-define the 2D arrays for the bullets to multiple 1D arrays, that is fine with me. But you may be able to use MATH SLICE to get the X and Y coordinates from the 2D array. I also tried checking coordinates in a square around the target (in stead of vector magnitude which in essence checks a circle), just to save time. Some remains of that may still be in the code. But also time is lost in USB/serial. The NES controller is much faster and PS2 using MM.INFO(PS2). Volhout Edited 2024-08-01 03:50 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2120 |
no.I figured this myself. search for rocks11 |
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| thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4036 |
Hi @Volhout, rocks11 is definitely an improvement. Items for your consideration: 1. The bullets don't always hit the small asteroids as @stanyella pointed out. 2. Why is there a strange "clown with a hooter" noise for the UFOs ?3. The real Asteroids machine only seems to have 3 bullets in flight at any one time. 4. I would say that all the "sprites" are 20-30% too large, the real Asteroids had more open space. 5. It would be nice to have the "proper" pixel explosions. 6. The real Asteroids has a dum-dum-dum backing noise like Space Invaders that gets faster the more Asteroids you destroy. Anyway, those that can do, those that can't criticise, so despite my comments well done  .Tom Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hi Tom, I have added your comments to the todo list. They are not addressed in this version yet. rocks12bf.zip Just some remarks: 1/ fixed in this release 2/ I have never played the game in my life, so if someone could "map" the 11 samples inside the RISsound.mod file to activities, I would welcome that. 3/ this game has 5 bullet slots. Assuming the ufo fires one shot, the player can have 4 bullets in game. And that is what is in the game description I read. 4/ Yes, I have noticed the same. The size is like 30% to big. But note that the player can aim in 5 degrees rotation angle. Making the size smaller, would force to rotate in smaller steps, making rotation slower. It is a balance. I'll look what I can do. 5/ The pixel explosions are in VegiPete's CMM2 game, and I have this on my todo list. 6/ The "dum dum" sound is in the mod file as sample 1 and 2. Waits for implementing. Volhout Edited 2024-08-01 20:03 by Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
Hi Tom I'm not sure where this MOD file came from. I already found samples of the Arvade version, let's see if I have time tonight and Volhout doesn't mind, I'll create an alternative MOD file using the new samples. @Volhout  good jobCheers Martin Edited 2024-08-01 20:20 by Martin H. Footnote added 2024-08-01 23:00 by Martin H. Arcade not Arvade  'no comment |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hi Martin, Appreciate your help !! Thanks in advance... Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
the Samples: 01.fire 02.saucerBig 03.saucerSmall 04.thrust 05.bangSmall 06.bangMedium 07.bangLarge 08.extraShip 09.beat1 10.beat2 sfx.zip there are 2 Modfiles,the pure SFX, only contains the noises, so it doesn't do anything when starting. The sfx_BG version plays this monotone hum sequence. Say if you are still missing something, then I can go looking for it or import it from the original mod Cheers Martin 'no comment |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Hi Martin, I'll pick this when I am back from holidays. The tent is not a good place for monitors and laptops... Will be monitorin the thread on the phone though. Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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