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matherp
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Posted: 02:06pm 18 Mar 2024

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Frank

Please post your options - will diagnose when I get home Sunday

What if you simply run a CLS automatically every time beforehand?

I do

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Posted: 02:48pm 18 Mar 2024

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Hi Peter,
I have now built up a Pico USB, which is all working fine, with a ILI9481.
I have installed the latest version, which you put in your comment to Frank, on Posted: 01:43pm 18 Mar 2024.
When I try to set the LCD to console I get
> OPTION LCDPANEL CONSOLE 7,,,,NOSCROLL
Error : Display does not support console

PicoMite MMBasic USB Edition 5.09.00b7
OPTION SERIAL CONSOLE COM2,GP8,GP9
OPTION SYSTEM SPI GP18,GP19,GP16
OPTION COLOURCODE ON
OPTION KEYBOARD UK
OPTION CPUSPEED 252000 'KHz
OPTION LCDPANEL ILI9481, LANDSCAPE,GP15,GP14,GP13
OPTION TOUCH GP12,GP11,GP10
OPTION SDCARD GP22

So it appears that not all panels are currently able to be used as a console, unless I'm doing something wrong?
Regards, Kevin.
PS I have been using this exact same setup, With LCD console working, but not the USB version.
Edited 2024-03-19 00:53 by Bleep

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Posted: 03:00pm 18 Mar 2024

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I've re-built it completely and can definitely set OPTION LCDPANEL CONSOLE with and ILI9481 set as the display (without an actual display)

NB: you don't need the "NOSCROLL" for displays that don't support reading as this will automatically default

Please report

PicoMiteUSB.zip

Bleep
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Posted: 03:37pm 18 Mar 2024

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Hi Peter,
Yes I can now set OPTION LCDPANEL CONSOLE 7 and the console is appearing on the LCD.
Currently this is using a USB terminal program, through the serial coms port, next I'll attempt connecting a USB keyboard through the coms port, to make it all stand alone, I'm currently failing at this, but I'll experiment. :-)
Regards, Kevin.
Edited 2024-03-19 01:38 by Bleep

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Posted: 06:01pm 18 Mar 2024

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I used LCDPANEL CONSOLE and pressed control c and typed edit.
to make it all stand alone
ps a new usb wired kb arrived, £5 , it's just right size

Edited 2024-03-19 04:31 by stanleyella

matherp
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Posted: 06:06pm 18 Mar 2024

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Stan

The objective of these changes is to make console mode more usable on SPI displays (and parallel displays without H/W scroll capability) including displays that don't support reading from their internal framebuffer.

Personally I don't use this sort of display. If I want a console then a 7" SSD1963 makes much more sense to me. However, there are obviously those who do want this so I have attempted to improve it - I think successfully.

Use/abuse/ignore as you wish
Edited 2024-03-19 04:07 by matherp

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Posted: 07:32pm 18 Mar 2024

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I'm now stuck, I've got the latest Pico USB working with a LCD Console, using the USB serial connection to a terminal, that is working fine, however when I disconnect the terminal and repace it with a keyboard nothing happens, I'm expecting to see a message about a USB device being connected, the keyboard is being powered.

This is the TTL-USB board I'm using, the chip is a LF10193A.

My options are.

PicoMite MMBasic USB Edition 5.09.00b7
OPTION SERIAL CONSOLE COM2,GP8,GP9
OPTION SYSTEM SPI GP18,GP19,GP16
OPTION COLOURCODE ON
OPTION KEYBOARD UK
OPTION PICO OFF
OPTION CPUSPEED 252000 'KHz
OPTION LCDPANEL ILI9481, LANDSCAPE,GP15,GP14,GP13
OPTION TOUCH GP12,GP11,GP10
OPTION SDCARD GP22

Is it possible, a fault maybe, for the TTL-USB to work with a terminal, but not directly to a USB keyboard, I've tried 3 keyboards?
Any ideas.
Regards, Kevin.
Edited 2024-03-19 05:48 by Bleep

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Posted: 07:51pm 18 Mar 2024

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It doesn't work like that.
When you load the USB version of the firmware:

. The USB port on the Pico becomes a USB host, to connect the USB keyboard or a USB hub to. You will need a micro USB male to (usually) USB-A female adapter.

. Pins GP8 and GP9 become a COM port for connection to an external terminal, usually via a USB-TTL converter. You can't connect a USB keyboard to this.
Edited 2024-03-19 05:53 by Mixtel90

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stanleyella

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Posted: 08:08pm 18 Mar 2024

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It's great you try to please folk. boot to 80's basic computer idea is optional.
mmedit is like gcbasic editor is like picaxe editor.. all windows.
not much to relearn.
I ,like you think 7" a minimum size display, my point about vga 7" monitor for price.. and faster but SSD1963 £7 800x480 but lots of pins more money, won't fit strip board.
lcd console.. depends on what you want to type. code?
can a gui keyboard be used in a console? .. :)
ssd1306? does it use a 1K buffer in ram like gcbasic? seen it scroll fast gcbasic.

ps I'm another tester but 4" ili9488 only if you want the zip.utf tried.
Edited 2024-03-19 06:31 by stanleyella

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Mixtel90 said It doesn't work like that.
When you load the USB version of the firmware:

. The USB port on the Pico becomes a USB host, to connect the USB keyboard or a USB hub to. You will need a micro USB male to (usually) USB-A female adapter.

. Pins GP8 and GP9 become a COM port for connection to an external terminal, usually via a USB-TTL converter. You can't connect a USB keyboard to this.

Thanks Mick,
I was having a senior moment there! It works perfectly when I connect the keyboard to the Picos own USB port, surprisingly enough!
Thanks for putting me back on the rails.
Regards Kevin.
Edited 2024-03-19 06:31 by Bleep

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Posted: 08:36pm 18 Mar 2024

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Currently this is using a USB terminal program, through the serial coms port, next I'll attempt connecting a USB keyboard through the coms port, to make it all stand alone, I'm currently failing at this, but I'll experiment. :-)
I was going to post that but thought no.
look at my usb pictures
ps using the usb to ttl adaptor with teraterm set baud to 112500 no default or it won't communicate. usb is so useful after ps2 keyboards.
Edited 2024-03-19 06:40 by stanleyella

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Posted: 08:42pm 18 Mar 2024

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It won't work, Stan. You would be connecting a USB keyboard to a COM port.

The console is on the COM port. USB devices go on the USB port. :)

You can force the console *display* to be on VGA or LCD, but the keyboard has to be on the USB port.
Edited 2024-03-19 06:44 by Mixtel90

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Posted: 08:50pm 18 Mar 2024

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stanleyella said SSD1963 £7 800x480

Just £7 - where please?

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Posted: 09:02pm 18 Mar 2024

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JohnS said

stanleyella said SSD1963 £7 800x480

Just £7 - where please?

John

oops £43 , it was the expansion board.why do ads do this?
my point about 7" vga. 1/4 price in a case and hdmi for other stuff and composite.
happy with mine

stanleyella

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Posted: 09:16pm 18 Mar 2024

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Mixtel90 said It won't work, Stan. You would be connecting a USB keyboard to a COM port.

The console is on the COM port. USB devices go on the USB port. :)

You can force the console *display* to be on VGA or LCD, but the keyboard has to be on the USB port.

yes sir I only connect usb to keyboard and usb to ttl is power and mmedit on pc.
Kevin got it wrong but thought don't say.
if I connect a £1 poundland power bank to the usb to ttl instead of a pc it's a stand alone basic computer. remember the usb2ttl is the 5V supply

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Posted: 09:31pm 18 Mar 2024

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Not £7 but prices back to sensible after the chip shortage

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Posted: 09:58pm 18 Mar 2024

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£19 is reasonable. ssd1306 nearly £12 now

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Posted: 03:35am 19 Mar 2024

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Intersesting, I got this email:

New 4.0 inch SPI serial port LCD Touch screen Module...
.
AU$9.60
AU$19.20 | -50%

Reduced by 50% from AU$19.20 to AU$9.60 but when I follow the link:

AU$21.51
AU$18.65 each, ≥ 3 pieces

· Free shipping over AU$15.00
· Fast delivery 13-day delivery by Apr 08 - 11
· Free returns within 90 days, no questions asked
New 4.0 inch SPI serial port LCD Touch screen Module 480*320 (Free Shipping)TFT display ILI9488 HD Electronic STM32 ESP32 AR C51
5.0 19 Reviews ౹ 173 sold
Color: Module With Touch

Go figure
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Frank N. Furter
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Posted: 08:05am 19 Mar 2024

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Peter, these are my options:

> option list
PicoMite MMBasic USB Edition 5.09.00b7
OPTION SERIAL CONSOLE COM2,GP8,GP9
OPTION SYSTEM SPI GP18,GP19,GP16
OPTION SYSTEM I2C GP6,GP7
OPTION COLOURCODE ON
OPTION KEYBOARD GR, 0, 0, 600, 150
OPTION CPUSPEED 252000 'KHz
OPTION LCDPANEL CONSOLE 7
OPTION DISPLAY 40, 80
OPTION LCDPANEL ILI9488, LANDSCAPE,GP15,GP14,GP13,GP2
OPTION TOUCH GP12,GP11,GP10
GUI CALIBRATE 0, 3969, 3900, -1228, -848
OPTION SDCARD GP22
OPTION AUDIO GP0,GP1', ON PWM CHANNEL 0
OPTION RTC AUTO ENABLE
OPTION DEFAULT FONT 7, 1

Since the last but one version, the PicoMite often forgets the setting "OPTION RTC AUTO ENABLE" and/or does not find the RTC when restarting...

matherp
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Posted: 08:41am 19 Mar 2024

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Frank

have you tried the very latest version I posted

https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/uploads/matherp/2024-03-19_005848_PicoMiteUSB.zip

NB: RTC AUTO is disabled if the firmware fails to read the RTC so check wiring etc.

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