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norcold Guru  Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Hi Mac, Bet Texan grasshoppers are bigger then OZ kangaroos. 
For me I`ll use the 12 gauge shovel if their browns or taipans and hang around the house. Otherwise let them live, they are a part of nature, like us and even our 12 gauge shovels. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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Tinker Guru Joined: 07/11/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1904 |
Glenn, can't help you as to why you seem to have more snakes at your place. Not a problem here in WA AFAIK. But, thinking about the bigger number of snakes, they got to eat well in order to breed up numbers so you must have a favorable food source for them nearby. As I have no idea how long a poisonous snake lives it could also be that they bred up in good conditions last year or before and are now seeking new food sources due the conditions being less good. I very much doubt that an Australian snake will consider you for lunch but I too would not like one too close to my house. Perhaps keeping pet cane toads might help  .Klaus |
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vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
In my opinion, you can't afford the "luxury" to relocate a deadly snake. His presence there means a permanent danger to you and to the ones you have to protect (family, dog, livestock and poultry farm), every day! You can't be alert every day (24/24 hours a day), you will make a mistake some day (and then, you will be bitten, or you will hear a scream or a whimper). The threat must be eliminated for good. The law must be applied only outside human living areas. A snake in your area must mean that all other wild areas are already occupied by other snakes. Not entirely true but that must be enforced: in the wilderness, the number of predators are regulated by the number of prey and that rule must stay that way. That must be the main occupation of all involved in preserving wild life of Australia, not hunting people because they killed a snake on their property (BTW, those people needs also to be monitored permanently, especially the ones who do services inside human living areas - not kidding). Our vipers are also protected by law (even collecting them as pets are forbidden), but are killed on sight in the human living areas. You can find them on mountains, wild, and unpopulated areas (three species of vipers). Most of them are killed on the field, when the hay is turned on the other side. 
But I guess if this thing is turned into a profitable business, then I guess only certain organizations will have the right to remove them, especially from the living areas - and this is BAD (IMHO, is democracy applied wrong)! The three species of vipers found in Romania are: - VIPERA URSINII with three subspecies (meadow viper): 
- VIPERA BERUS (common viper, I guess): 
- VIPERA AMMODYTES with two subspecies: 
Definitely, not as deadly as your snakes! Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Yeah there was a mouse plague here several years ago. I remember driving into the area at night the seeing mice run across the road in my headlights. Pop pop pop under the wheels. I suspect that, and the imbalance introduced by farming, has caused the large numbers. I don't have any issues with farming, but I do believe it's the reason we have so many deadly's, which is why I feel some research should be done and the protected status reconsidered. A higher number of large snakes also means other natives suffer, not just mice. You know, the thought of introducing a few cane toads did cross my mind  . But this would be ecological vandalism, and besides they wouldn't survive the winters here.
Nice photos' Vasi. I thing that top picture is our Coastal Taipan, very nasty but not as aggressive as a Brown, from what I've heard. I like your native vipers, very pretty. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| domwild Guru Joined: 16/12/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 873 |
The great duality in life, snakes are good as they keep your rats and mice at bay and they will kill you if you are bitten. Bobtail goannas eat little snakes. Taxation as a means of achieving prosperity is like a man standing inside a bucket trying to lift himself up. Winston Churchill |
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Rastus Guru Joined: 29/10/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 301 |
Hi Gizmo, Long time coming.Largest domestic cats you can get! You may loose one occasionally sadly thats collateral damage! Dogs have a poor chance because they pick the snake up along the body and instinctively shake it to death getting bitten in the process.Cats go for just behind the head and suffocate the snake to death. They are lightning quick and have high success rates unless they are old and slow. That's why feral cats are so destructive, they are efficient hunters/killers. Kind regards Rastus Oh, buy the way, I just remembered they will bring them up to your back door and play with them for ages even after they are dead! see Rastus graduate advise generously |
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| brucedownunder2 Guru Joined: 14/09/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1548 |
Got a red bellied black Monday.. Was under a rock ,I'm levelling my property and raking thousands of rocks .. They are generally little fellas,around a mtr. but Mum and Dad will be around also, I guess.. This one is now in a kookaburra's belly by now ,I'd think. Anyhow ,cold and windy ,so not many snakes about ,this time of the year.. Bruce. Bushboy |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
My neighbours up the road have several cats, and see very few snakes around the house, so I think having a heap of cats would help. After living here for some time now, and visiting other rural properties, I'm pretty much convinced the brown snakes should not be protected, and even culled. I know some will say the snakes are part of nature and should be protected, but think about it this way.... I live in farm land. Few tree's, the the wildlife consists of mice, deadly snakes ( never seen a non deadly snake here ), hares, rabbits, foxes, kangaroos and feral cats. But I have visited a few rural properties around here that have lots of tree's and native plants, and they see lots of "safe" snakes like pythons and green tree snakes, lizards, and the smaller marsupials. And only the occasional dangerous snake. I suggest, by clearing our properties of scrub, low bushes and other places for deadly snakes to hide, so we feel safer, we are also removing the nice animals. Maybe we should just remove the deadly snakes instead. Maybe the protected status of brown snakes has been detrimental to other native animals? The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Glenn My friend sent me this in the weekend, it is the thing nightmares are made of, you are lucky you are on the cool hill and not the warm coastal fringe. I have seen some big ones to around 3 meters but this one takes the prize. All the best Bob 
THIS IS NOT A PYTHON! This is a 15 foot Eastern Brown snake - the largest ever caught on record. This snake was found Near the the Humphries home at Currimundi, in a backyard there.... A little research revealed the following: One bite from a snake of this size would contain enough venom to kill over 40 full grown men. The head of this snake alone is larger than the hand of a normal sized man. A bite from those fangs would be comparable to being stabbed by two curved, 1/4 inch diameter screwdrivers. The knife being used to draw out the fangs for the bottom picture has a blade around 6 inches long. This snake is estimated to have weighed over 170 pounds. (How much do you weigh?) Notice the girth of this snake with Sid in the first picture (and he is not a small man). A snake of this size could easily swallow a 2 year-old child (and dogs, pigs, etc). A snake this size has an approximately 5 1/2 foot accurate striking distance. This snake has probably been alive since Sir Robert Menzies. was Prime Minister.. (The distance for an average size brown snake is about 5 feet . ) Then ask yourself these questions: What has this snake been feeding on and where are its offspring? LET'S GO PLAY SOME GOLF IN Mooloolaba instead... Foolin Around |
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| vasi Guru Joined: 23/03/2007 Location: RomaniaPosts: 1697 |
There you should get the Army mobilized to clear the zone! Hobbit name: Togo Toadfoot of Frogmorton Elvish name: Mablung Miriel Beyound Arduino Lang |
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| Rastus Guru Joined: 29/10/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 301 |
Hi Bob, definite winner there.Might make good eating, 170lb of meat but don't no whether only the natives have the legal right to eat them.I'd hate to have to kick that one out of the way to comply with the law,lol. Hi Glenn, instead of having a ton of cats to care for,if you could select 3 from the same litter they tend to stay together more often than not and the odds are in their favour.Three against One. Your water is probably the real attraction. Kind regards Rastus see Rastus graduate advise generously |
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| Rastus Guru Joined: 29/10/2010 Location: AustraliaPosts: 301 |
Tiger snake heaven here along with copper heads. Yep,they're protected as well. Snake traps made out of card board are used for relocating snakes. They work! All they are is a maze with square corners in a pizza box. The snake goes in but cannot reverse (back) out. The snake is unharmed, but will starve to death within 8 weeks aprox. depending on when it had it's last meal. They aren't meant to be used for that purpose though as you can guess. Companies advertise them on the internet.Happy hunting, Kind regards Rastus see Rastus graduate advise generously |
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Greenbelt Guru Joined: 11/01/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 566 |
Creepy Crawlers are useful sometimes?? Snakes Don't like other Breeds. Supernatural or The "Toad Curse" Cheers-------Roe Time has proven that I am blind to the Obvious, some of the above may be True? |
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| jkis Newbie  Joined: 31/07/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 16 |
we used to be on a larger property, there were so many blacks and browns it was scary, always on the look out, one day i spotted a different coloured brown, while talking to others from the area, they were sure it was a crossbred brown/black and warned me if to watch out for them, i was told to put moth balls in and under things in the shed anywhere and everywhere, especially were there were rock walls, that supposed to be were the browns like it, snakes do not like the smell of moth balls and they wont harm anything, and to have a look for holes from mice and rats, fill them with dry sand, if you spot a snake go into a hole put the dry sand in, come back in 15 minutes or so and there is the snake, he can't go back and the sand is holding him, then i was asked if i like golf (got mo idea why that popped up) apparently the snake contracts ect to move and the dry sand just keeps moving in onto them. another told me of tossing hot water (make sure it's a good container) on the snake they will attack the area and bite them self's, while helping a guy out this way to redo his bird aviary's 1st was to remove the shade cloth, the last job was to put it back on a few days later, found 3 dead snakes, the farmer next door believes when the snake sheads it skin the new skin is soft and the ruffnes of some shade cloth was enough for the snake to think something was attacking it and bit themselves. also told that red back spiders are the same if they have no red back. old mate used to drive ambulances took 18 people in for treatment from snake bites, 17 tried to kill a snake, and 1 little old lady was just walking in her garden. cheers stuart |
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OA47 Guru Joined: 11/04/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 926 |
@ Gizmo, I live on a rural property in central Victoria and have had to deal with both black and brown snakes mostly each summer. By accident I found that the black nylon bird netting used on our fruit trees is a great way of trapping snakes. The snakes try and weave through the netting rather than sliding over or under it and cannot reverse as their scales will not allow them to. I have used this netting by laying it on the ground to provide a perimeter around our dwelling and pet inclosures during summer. Initially I had to extract some snakes from the netting but for the last few years I think they have learned of its danger and have seen to hunt in other places. Maybe this is a less technical remedy to your problem. (no batteries needed) All the best for this summer GM |
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