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stanleyella Guru  Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
linux is not easy. it relies on the command prompt to do stuff which is complicated and one typo don't work. all linux are pretty gui on a command line system. rpi 400 and using twister os. which can look like anything is still linux but is the best os I used for linux. win version available?? sorry, try linux and you'll regret it.it's not a win alternative imho. |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
You sound rather out of date. There are distros where you might never use the command line, if that's what you fear. Being GUI-large they do need a reasonably powerful system (which a RPi typically isn't). As I said, if you can stand the problems of Windows and like it, stick to it. John |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6095 |
Silicon Labs drivers can often be found in "optional updates" but installing manually is no big deal. I don't know why they are not included in with the normal drives. Some makes of chips were plagued with fakes and have deliberately nobbled the drivers to detect these 'fakes' Sometimes, sourcing an old driver and manual installation will allow you to continue using the 'fakes' Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6775 |
I've found a FTDI converter that I've had for so long it has a mini USB socket on it! Useful little board as you can switch VCC out between 3.3V and 5V. The pull up resistors are on the VCC output, not the 5V rail so they automatically switch to 3V3. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
I got around to build free basic on rpi linux, had to follow instructions, not a clue what I was doing. Then got to use free basic to compile great cow basic but setting up the gui, Geany, I was on my own and no idea how to. Loading free basic on win and fbide was just install and install gcbasic. The linux version of mmbasic I read is not like the win version? |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
For most of its existence RPIs have been cheap & correspondingly low performance. I guess you don't run Windows on one and if you're going to do much with Linux you want something like a reasonably modern PC. It can dual boot with Windows (but don't bother - just buy a used laptop or the like for about £60). Freebasic install is then a click away, no need to build it. Geany is also a click away, if you want it, again no need to build it as far as I can see. GCBasic is a bit niche, however, and for no obvious reason doesn't provide binaries except for Windows. If you ever want to try Linux properly don't start with a low performance host - just as I'm sure you don't do with Windows. John Edited 2024-10-24 06:23 by JohnS |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
hi John. I wish mint, if I installed on my i5 pc was an alternative to win but not. I thought linux worked on any old pc, a feature. latest linux I can use but same , different everything to win. you don't need to be an electrician to use an electric kettle. same win linux need a degree a degree don't help, linux YOU HAVE TO USE THE TERMINAL. I never use win cmd. if I did it's like linux, unknown. if you drive a car are you a mechanic? Edited 2024-10-24 07:03 by stanleyella |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
My mum converted to Linux without problems so I am surprised you cannot but life's full of surprises. She's never used the command line and doesn't know what it is. She moved over because the things Microsoft makes a Windows user suffer annoyed her and she asked for something she could use without the hassles. Mind you, she didn't want freebasic or gcbasic. John Edited 2024-10-24 08:31 by JohnS |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
John. linux can be like an android phone. try android file system to find photo and transfer, loads of hassle learning but if you only use installed linux preinstalled browser and happy ok. does yor mum set up usb drivers or sound or video or get apps to install and run? |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6775 |
Most linux package installs are a doddle now. Display the (categorized) list of what's available in the repo, highlight the one you want and tell it to install. It will tell you that it needs some dependencies. Say yes. It does everything automatically then. It's actually easier than downloading a zip to your desktop, unpacking it and running an install program. Try a Mint "live CD" and you'll see what I mean. It won't install anything on your machine unless you tell it to. It will, however, run a bit slower than an installed version as it has fo fetch everything from disk. I *think* you can get them to install from a USB stick rather than a CD now, I've not tried one for years. Most drivers are built-in and, since they are often reverse-engineered from the actual chip used, aren't tied to a particular make of device. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
She's used USB things, but unlike Windows all the needed drivers etc were already there, so no hassles. Any apps (won't be many) she just clicked and they installed, with all dependencies. TBH you're listing things that are a pain on Windows for ordinary users, though they cope, mostly (not so much with USB drivers unless they discover, install & use zadig). John |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
I got 2 32 bit laptops and thinking of this linux https://twisteros.com/twisterui.html I read mint is ceasing in 2024 and is full of ads?? |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6775 |
Twister is a user interface. You can use it on top of several different linux distros. There is a version that will run on Mint. :) On linux the user interface isn't linux. It's just a way to communicate with it so you can have several user interfaces on the same system and switch between them if you like. Acyually, you can't work with the linux kernel - the "true" linix - as it has no human user interface, only ways for other programs to talk to it. Linux Mint Installation guide . Edited 2024-10-25 03:11 by Mixtel90 Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
linux mint 64bit, old laptops 32 bit |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6775 |
Some of the later 32 bit computers can run 64 bit software but not all. It's usually a case of trying it. You'll do well to find a decent GUI system that will run happily on an early 32 bit CPU now. Mint 19 was the last version to include 32-bit support. We are up to version 22 now. Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
Mick , there is only mmbasic for linux alpha or use wine and problems posted on forum so I stick to win, seems daft promoting linux here when it don't run mmbasic |
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| Mixtel90 Guru Joined: 05/10/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 6775 |
That's as good a reason as any. :) Mick Zilog Inside! nascom.info for Nascom & Gemini Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
The thread wasn't about running MMBasic on Windows or on Linux. It was about USB, drivers, etc and for that Linux has always just worked for me as I pointed out. If you change the requirements, other answers would apply, naturally. That said, I have run both Geoff's MMBasic for Linux and Tom's and both worked OK. John Edited 2024-10-25 20:49 by JohnS |
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| stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2117 |
It's win 11 pro 23H2 iso from ms. I wonder what it'll do with my epsom usb printer/scanner which is old but still works on win 10. |
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