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TassyJim

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Posted: 10:40am 07 Mar 2023

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Andrew_G said Given the sensitivities of sharing a USB hub that Jim has observed I'll need to be careful to program the two Picos separately but run them off a common supply.

You can share a hub OK, just don't try and connect (or reboot) while the other one is connected and in use. And it could just be my gear...

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Posted: 06:32pm 07 Mar 2023

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My notetaking has not been up to par.

Can someone provide a link to the post (or posts) in which commands are shown and explained which can be used at the ">" prompt, e.g., Files, Kill, Save, Run, Rmdir, Rename, Drive, Load, Sort; are there others?

Also, I think I saw recently that Peter implemented Tom's parameter for a command, maybe RUN? Which alpha/release, and can someone provide a link for the explanation of that?

Is there space to provide a list of possibilities for, say, LIST MM.INFO to show what you can query?

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Edited 2023-03-08 04:41 by lizby

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lizby said Also, I think I saw recently that Peter implemented Tom's parameter for a command, maybe RUN? Which alpha/release, and can someone provide a link for the explanation of that?

Actually Tom implemented it ;-) It's apparently in 5.07.07b25 for all PicoMites

Syntax of the RUN command is now:

RUN [filename$] [, cmdline$]

Both filename$ and cmdline$ can be string expressions.

The value of cmdline$ is copied into the MMBasic constant MM.CMDLINE$ of the program RUN.

At the prompt you can also use the * shortcut:

*foo --wom --bat "fubar"

This is equivalent to:

RUN "foo", "--wom --bar " + Chr$(34) + "fubar" + Chr$(34)

Note how the * form does not try to evaluate any string expression in the command line arguments.

MMB4W and MMB4L also support the above (though MM.CMDLINE$ is implemented as an inbuilt function rather than a constant on those platforms). These platforms also contain best-effort support for the original (CMM2) command line format:

' Don't do this it's problematic
RUN "foo", --wom --bat "fubar"

I don't think Peter has updated the CMM2 for consistency, perhaps he will at some future point.

Best wishes,

Tom
Edited 2023-03-08 05:29 by thwill

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thwill said It's apparently in 5.07.07b25 for all PicoMites

Thanks, Tom. Also in Picomiteweb Version 5.07.07a20. That makes it easier for me to test various web pages.

> run "web.bas","gretx.htm"
sending gretx.htm

ElseIf Instr(ss$,"HTTP") Then
if mm.cmdline$<>"" then
Print "sending "+mm.cmdline$
WEB transmit page ii%,mm.cmdline$
else
Print "sending page"
WEB transmit page ii%,"clock.htm"
endif
EndIf

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Posted: 08:44pm 07 Mar 2023

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Jim,
Thanks for that - it will be easier if I can use the hub for both.
Not a big deal but I suppose its not easy to have two MMEdit and MMCC sessions running at once? (one for each Pico) I 'think' version 4 could?

Cheers,

Andrew

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Posted: 08:58pm 07 Mar 2023

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Hi,

When I execute:

web ntp 1,"ntp.time.nl"

I get sometimes an Error : NTP timeout:

ntp address 94.198.159.14
Error : NTP timeout

It is not the nameserver because I get the ip address of the server.

web ntp 1

Does work correctly. Perhaps something to have a closer look on?
Edited 2023-03-08 07:00 by nbrok

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lizby said Can someone provide a link to the post (or posts) in which commands are shown and explained which can be used at the ">" prompt, e.g., Files, Kill, Save, Run, Rmdir, Rename, Drive, Load, Sort; are there others?

Like most BASICs you can execute most things at a prompt.

They're in the manual under Commands (and you can use expressions in things like PRINT, as it's a BASIC).

See also the manual under Predefined Read Only Variables.

John

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JohnS said They're in the manual under Commands (and you can use expressions in things like PRINT, as it's a BASIC).

See also the manual under Predefined Read Only Variables.

Thanks. More of them are in the manual than I realized--but RUN does not yet show the [,cmdline$] parameter which I was specifically looking for, and MM.INFO$() does not, I believe, include all the Predefined Read Only Variables which can now be accessed. I know it's a moving target.

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Quote web ntp 1,"ntp.time.nl"

I get sometimes an Error : NTP timeout:

ntp address 94.198.159.14
Error : NTP timeout

It is not the nameserver because I get the ip address of the server.

web ntp 1

That can only mean the NL ntp server isn't very reliable or is very slow to respond. If you omit the server then it uses pool.ntp.org with exactly the same code
Edited 2023-03-08 08:46 by matherp

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Posted: 10:48pm 07 Mar 2023

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The manuals usually only get updated with full release versions of the firmware. Most changes since then are in PicoMite_readme.txt in latest Beta zip.
There is more info in posts here. Search for the items in that file.

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Posted: 10:59pm 07 Mar 2023

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Lizby,

You probably mean List Commands of List Functions?
Or
From page 12 manual.
F2 RUN
F3 LIST
F4 EDIT
F10 AUTO SAVE
F11 XMODEM RECEIVED
F12 SEND XMODEM
Function keys F1 and F5 to F9 can be customized with custom text.
See the OPTION FNKey command.

Or more the command you have to fill in at OPTION FNKey?

But you can also copy and paste Tera Term.
Type after: > files
Then you can hover over the name with the left mouse button that you want to load or edit.
Then you enter after > eg load " and then press the right mouse button and you only have to add a " after it.
You can move along the text with the cursor keys to edit it.

For example, I have all lines included in the file list with the file system commands and saved to the disk with empty memory.
Do improvise a bit with the characters so that the file system cannot respond when saving.

0_SD-FLASH:_Load_Run_Save_Files_Kill_Mkdir.bas
1_SD-FLASH:_Chdir_Rmdir_Seek_Rename_Input$.bas
2_SD-FLASH:_Dir$_Cwd$_Eof_Loc_Lof_Copy_Name.bas
3__SERIAL:_XMODEM_Send____'prbas'.bas
4__SERIAL:_XMODEM_Receive_'prbas'.bas
5_FLASH1-4:_SAVE_LOAD_RUN_LIST_ERASE_CHAIN_OVERWRITE.bas
6_DRIVE_AB:_DRIVE_'A:'=FLASH-INTERN.bas
7_DRIVE_AB:_DRIVE_'B:'=___SD-EXTERN.bas
8__SD_Copy:_Copy_'A:xxx'_to_'B:xxx'.bas
9__SD_Kill:_Kill_'A:*'_Kill_'A:xxx'.bas

Jan

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Posted: 11:28pm 07 Mar 2023

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JanVolk said You probably mean List Commands of List Functions?

No, I meant something like those commands, but for the Predefined Read Only Variables, or more particularly, for mm.info (since those seem to be added to with some regularity).

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Posted: 12:59am 08 Mar 2023

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Two thoughts

Using "http://icanhazip.com" returns an external or WAN IP
Normally this server returns very fast.

It would be nice if we could start and stop WLAN to reduce the power consumption in view of using batteries.
MicroPython code

To use a hotspot, the MicroPython code has to be network.WLAN(network.AP_IF).

Does PicoMiteWlan support hotspots?

Gregor
Edited 2023-03-08 11:28 by aFox

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Posted: 11:02pm 10 Mar 2023

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I figured out, that smartphone hotspots are supported by PicoMiteWeb.

Still I am missing

if((tp=checkstring(cmd, "TEXT"))){
or
if((tp=checkstring(cmd, "HTML"))){

within MMtcpserver.c

, so we could type

WEB TRANSMIT TEXT cb%, mText$
or
WEB TRANSMIT HTML cb%, mHtml$

My favorite is TEXT, because often I need for data transfer only
a CSV string without any HTML boilerplate code.

I think WEB TRANSMIT PAGE is a good idea, but to much runtime effort for a simple string.

A support of LONGSTRING would be nice too.

After some testing I can say, that it does not make sense to call
a PicoMiteWeb server without a 500 millisecond pause.

Via an Android hotspot I get a response time in a best case of 745 milliseconds overall. Sometimes it increases to 1280 milliseconds.
Within my home WiFi I get response time increases of up to 8.5 seconds.
The average is in this case 1 to 3 seconds.

Gregor
Edited 2023-03-11 10:23 by aFox

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Posted: 01:54pm 11 Mar 2023

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Using release 21.

I'm not sure what is going on. My program (an LED clock) will run for most of the day... and then crash. After the crash... the loaded program will be *gone* and I have to re-deploy it again since typing "LIST" responds with *nothing*.

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