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stanleyella

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  Volhout said  The 1N5819 has several pf capacitance. That may actually work better. But you also may have been lucky.

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there were problems before I found the resistor diode fix on the forum. you seem to have had more problems than I did
 
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Diode junction capacitance is what matters most. Tested a 1N4148 / 10kΩ that gives 7 7 7 on the colour counter test with various capacitors across the diode.
22pF was the lowest that gave 64 64 64. 270pF was the highest I tested, also 64 64 64.
 
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It may have been the capacitance of strip board parallel tracks.
 
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Stan,
the diode you are using (1N5818) has a very high capacitance 110pF. Excellent selection!  
Stripboard probably negligible compared to that.  

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stanleyella

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Can I ask here or new thread?
I tried an existing prog for ili9488... it's 480x320 so must be and blit write now gives syntax error using picomite usb. There was mention of sprite instead of blit working in betas but all too dynamic to keep up to date.
The ili9488 did work with this on a final release.
it's picomite rc3 usb

Edited 2024-04-14 02:54 by stanleyella
 
matherp
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blit write no longer takes a width and height parameter. This change was made ages ago.
The command spec in the 5.08 manual is correct but the description needs updating by removing the italicized sentences.


  Quote  BLIT WRITE [#]b, x, y [,mode]
BLIT WRITE will copy the memory buffer '#b' to the display. The destination
coordinate is 'x' and 'y' and the width/height of the buffer to copy is 'w' and 'h'.
If omitted w,h will default to the width and height of the blit buffer.

The optional 'mode' parameter defaults to 0 and specifies how the stored image
data is changed as it is written out. It is the bitwise AND of the following
values:
&B001 = mirrored left to right
&B010 = mirrored top to bottom
&B100 = don't copy transparent pixels
 
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Thank you Peter sir, it compiled without height,width but just white squares not the sprites

restore

cls
udg1 'draws sprite1 on screen at 10,10
BLIT READ 1,10,10,16,16 'reads sprite1 from screen to blit buffer1
udg1 'draws sprite2 on screen at 10,10
blit read 2,10,10,16,16 'reads sprite2 from screen to blit buffer2
cls
blit read 3,10,10,16,16 'reads 16x16 background to blit buffer3
'
for temp=0 to 15 'set up start sprite positions and directions
do
 dx(temp)=(int(rnd*4)+1)-(int(rnd*8)+1)
loop until dx(temp)<>0
do
 dy(temp)=(int(rnd*4)+1)-(int(rnd*8)+1)
loop until dy(temp)<>0
 spx(temp)=104+((rnd*64)+1)
 spy(temp)=144+((rnd*64)+1)    
next temp
'
do 'demo moving sprite
   for temp=0 to 15
'        if sprite_status(temp)=1 then 'is sprite active
           if spx(temp)> 460 then 'check right edge
             dx(temp)= 0-dx(temp)
           elseif spx(temp)<8 then 'check left edge
             dx(temp)= 0-dx(temp)
           end if
           if spy(temp)>300 then 'check bottom edge
             dy(temp)= 0-dy(temp)
           elseif spy(temp)<8 then 'check top edge
             dy(temp)= 0-dy(temp)
           end if
     '
           oldspx(temp)=spx(temp):oldspy(temp)=spy(temp) 'get last position for erase
           spx(temp)=spx(temp)+dx(temp):spy(temp)=spy(temp)+dy(temp) 'get new position for draw
     '
               if frame=0 then'which sprite to draw
                 box oldspx(temp),oldspy(temp),16,16,0,bk,1 'erase sprite at last position
                 'BLIT WRITE 3,oldspx(temp),oldspy(temp), 16, 16 'erase sprite at last position
                 BLIT WRITE 1,spx(temp),spy(temp),&B100'draw sprite1 at new position
               else
box oldspx(temp),oldspy(temp),16,16,0,bk,1 'erase sprite at last position
                 'BLIT WRITE 3,oldspx(temp),oldspy(temp), 16, 16 'erase sprite at last position
                 BLIT WRITE 2,spx(temp),spy(temp),&B100 'draw sprite2 at new position
               end if
   next temp
 '
   frame_count=frame_count+1 'when to change sprite
   if frame_count=10 then
     frame=not frame
     frame_count=0
   end if
loop
'
sub udg1 'draws 16x16 data for blit to copy
 for spht=0 to 15
   for spw=0 to 15
     read sp1
     pixel spw+10,spht+10,sp1
   next spw
 next spht
end sub
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That means the blit read isn't working. Can you run the 64 64 64 test program above?
 
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  matherp said  That means the blit read isn't working. Can you run the 64 64 64 test program above?

No they don't work.. arrays
my point is IT DID WORK on a final release but not on rc3 usb
pixel 100,100,rgb(white)
print pixel 100,100
gives big number
 
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You need to get the 64 64 64 test working. It does work on RC3 if your H/W is correct. Are you using the IPS ILI9488?

Here is a simple way to test

GUI TEST LCDPANEL

let it run for a few seconds then Ctrl-C. You should now have a colourful screen

BLIT READ 1,0,0,100,100
BLIT WRITE 1,100,100

The data from 0,0 to 100,100 should now be replicated at 100,100 to 200,200

Until this works you have a H/W problem
Edited 2024-04-14 04:21 by matherp
 
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gui test lcdpanel
> BLIT READ 1,0,0,100,100
Error : Buffer in use
> BLIT WRITE 1,100,100
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> blit close 1
> blit read 1,0,0,100,100
> blit write 1,100,100
>
a white box :(
If I found an older pico mmb to test and it worked again then why it don't work now?

















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White box means the code is reading zeroes. Because the IPS version has the colours inverted this will display as white. I guarantee this works fine on RC3 with a correctly wired ILI9488 IPS display


 
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As Peter said it is a hardware issue with the 4" IPS panel. If the SD pins are connected to System SPI you must remove R8 (near the SD socket). Also make sure the panel voltage is 3.3V. Either by powering it from 3.3V or adding the 3.3V regulator and removing R0.

This is fully described in the previous few pages.

Footnote added 2024-04-17 09:17 by phil99
  Quote  A possible alternative to removing R8 may be to reduce the 10kΩ to 1kΩ - 1.5kΩ to override it. Untested, may be too low for some SD cards.


Now tested. All the SD cards I have are happy with this so I suggest leaving R8 in place and using 1.5kΩ or 1.8kΩ for the LCD_CS to MISO resistor and using any diode with a junction capacitance of more than 22pF. Eg 1N400x or 1N581x series.
 
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  Quote   capacitance is what matters most.

Revived the original 680Ω idea, but changed to 10kΩ in parallel with 100pF from LCD_DO to MISO.
> for a=0to 2:b=0:for c=0to 255:d=c<<a*8:pixel 9,9,d:if d=pixel(9,9)then:inc b:endif:next:?b:next
64
64
64
>

Stan's Blit test works too.

(no diode or resistor to LCD_CS)
Edited 2024-04-14 07:58 by phil99
 
stanleyella

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back to
PicoMite MMBasic Version 5.08.00
OPTION SYSTEM SPI GP18,GP19,GP16
OPTION LCDPANEL ILI9488, LANDSCAPE,GP15,GP14,GP13
OPTION TOUCH GP12,GP11
GUI CALIBRATE 0, 3937, 3908, -1286, -848
OPTION SDCARD GP22
and my sprites are working again but using original ili9488 as ils needs invert and there's no invert option.so the rc3 is needed to use the ils 9488?
this is strange that same prog works in picomite v 5.08 but not picomite rc3 usb,
sprite write not working.
as an observation, the sprite prog would be too fast to see on ili9341 but on ili9488 it's slow like using frame copy. ili9488 is big but crap... imho :)
peace stan
 
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  stanleyella said  ili9488 is big but crap... imho :)


Mightn't it depend on what one wants to do with it?

Like saying a butcher knife is crap because it won't do what a paring knife will do.
PicoMite, Armmite F4, SensorKits, MMBasic Hardware, Games, etc. on fruitoftheshed
 
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  Quote  Revived the original 680Ω idea, but changed to 10kΩ in parallel with 100pF from LCD_DO to MISO.

Once again SD cards are the fly in the ointment. It seems some read SDO (MISO) when first inserted and if it is low they go to sleep. As the ILI9488 LCD_DO is low when idle even 10kΩ is too low.
Raising the value of the resistor high enough for all SD cards to work stops Blit etc working properly

So it's back to a resistor from LCD_CS to MISO and a high capacitance diode from LCD_DO to MISO.
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Edited 2024-04-14 14:13 by phil99
 
stanleyella

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  lizby said  
  stanleyella said  ili9488 is big but crap... imho :)


Mightn't it depend on what one wants to do with it?

Like saying a butcher knife is crap because it won't do what a paring knife will do.

I was ranting, sorry. Just finding out ils ili9488 blit not working and changing displays and firmware I was frustrated.
it's like said ils version has the problem and not sure of removing resistor and what is 3.3V supply about?
going to flash rc3 and test non ips 9488.
 
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using rc3 usb again and non ips 9488 working as was. I got confused with ips 9488 which needs more soldering than non ips to work. nice display.. not
 
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