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LeoNicolas Guru  Joined: 07/10/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 479 |
Very cool idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmSQp7gHztM |
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Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
thanks for posting, that reminds me on something  perhaps one should take up the project, with today's knowledge and tools Edited 2024-06-11 16:11 by Martin H. 'no comment |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
@Leo, Martin, Maybe after the thermal camera... Martin, what happened to AS2 ? Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
Volhout, It's only on pause, but not abandoned. Drawing the tiles and maps became a tedious boring job so I needed something else first. In addition, I have a few problems outside the computer world, which at times demanded my full attention. In time I will take care of more level maps (as described). First I had the “order” for Monster Maze and while programming GemsNRocks I learned a few techniques which I can also use for Alien Syndrome. For example, the independent movement of the player and the screen, so that the player no longer generally has to remain in a fixed position on the screen but can be moved to the edges. Cheers Martin Edited 2024-06-12 00:47 by Martin H. 'no comment |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
Hi Leo I have now watched the series up to the current video. Unfortunately this is apparently not open source or I have not yet found a source for it. I think this could even be implemented for the Pico. Here you could work in mode 1 with an enlarged Petscii character set (16x16) and tiles. The advantage is that you don't need a framebuffer, only a textbuffer & tilebuffer for the colors. these only need to be 2x40x24 bytes to display the whole thing full screen.  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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
With a little tinkering, it could look like this  'Petscii Outrun Test TILE height 16 Dim integer col(15) Restore colors:For f=1 To 15:Read col(f):Next MODE 1 CLS TILE 0,0,col(7),0,80,3 TILE 0,23,col(7),0,80,7 'Colour Col(7),Col(11) Font 9 'For f=32 To 192:Print Chr$(f);:Next Text 0,5*16," TIME 00 SCORE 0 LAP 0'00"+Chr$(34)+"00" Text 0,24*16,"000 KM/H STAGE 1" Text 0,25*16,String$(16,161) TILE 0,25,col(11),0,20,1:TILE 20,25,col(6),0,6,1:TILE 26,25,col(4),0,6,1 TILE 0,24,col(4),0,6,1:TILE 8,24,col(12),0,8,1:TILE 66,24,col(6),0,10,1 TILE 78,24,col(9),0,2,1:y=15*16 l$=".:"+Chr$(34):r$=Chr$(34)+":." Text 16*17,y,l$+" "+r$:Inc y,16 Text 16*14,y,l$+String$(7,32)+r$:Inc y,16 Text 16*11,y,l$+String$(13,32)+r$:Inc y,16 Text 16*8,y,l$+String$(19,32)+r$:Inc y,16 Text 16*5,y,l$+String$(25,32)+r$:Inc y,16 Text 16*2,y,l$+String$(31,32)+r$:Inc y,16 Text -16,y,l$+String$(37,32)+r$:y=17*16 'car Text 256,y,String$(3,164)+" "+String$(3,164):Inc y,16 Text 240,y,"="+Chr$(191)+"[]"+Chr$(132)+"()"+Chr$(191)+"=":Inc y,16 Text 240,y,Chr$(169)+Chr$(166)+Chr$(138)+String$(3,128)+Chr$(139)+Chr$(166)+Chr$(159) Inc y,16:Text 240,y,"=="+Chr$(190)+Chr$(164)+"%"+Chr$(164)+Chr$(188)+"==" Inc y,16:Text 240,y,"[)"+Chr$(166)+String$(3,168)+Chr$(166)+"(]" cr$=Chr$(175)+Chr$(175)+Chr$(184)+String$(3,183)+Chr$(184)+Chr$(175)+Chr$(175) Inc y,16:Text 240,y,cr$ TILE 0,3,0,Col(11),80,20 Do For f=0 To 2:FRAMEBUFFER wait:bg(f):CAR:Pause 150:Next Loop Sub CAR TILE 30,18,col(7),0,2:TILE 32,18,0,col(4),2:TILE 34,18,0,col(14),4 TILE 38,18,col(7),0,2:TILE 40,18,0,col(6),4:TILE 44,18,col(4),0,2 TILE 46,18,col(7),0,2 TILE 30,19,0,col(4),2:TILE 32,19,0,col(4),14 TILE 46,19,0,col(4),2 TILE 30,20,col(4),0,2:TILE 32,20,col(6),0,2 TILE 34,20,col(7),0,2:TILE 36,20,col(4),0,6:TILE 42,20,col(7),0,2 TILE 44,20,col(6),0,2:TILE 46,20,col(4),0,2 TILE 30,21,0,col(4),6:TILE 36,21,0,col(7),6:TILE 42,21,0,col(4),6 TILE 30,22,Col(10),0,4:TILE 44,22,Col(10),0,4 End Sub Sub bg(nr) c1=col(2):c2=col(10) Select Case nr Case 0 TILE 0,15,0,c1,80,1:TILE 0,16,0,c2,80,1:TILE 0,17,0,c1,80,2 TILE 0,19,0,c2,80,1:TILE 0,20,0,c1,80,2:TILE 0,22,0,c2,80,1 Case 1 TILE 0,15,0,c2,80,1:TILE 0,16,0,c1,80,1:TILE 0,17,0,c2,80,1 TILE 0,18,0,c1,80,2:TILE 0,20,0,c2,80,2:TILE 0,22,0,c1,80,1 Case 2 TILE 0,15,0,c2,80,2:TILE 0,17,0,c1,80,1:TILE 0,18,0,c2,80,1 TILE 0,19,0,c1,80,2:TILE 0,21,0,c2,80,2 End Select End Sub colors: '--Colorscheme accordung to Spritecolors Data RGB(BLUE),RGB(GREEN),RGB(CYAN),RGB(RED),RGB(MAGENTA),RGB(YELLOW) Data RGB(WHITE),RGB(MYRTLE),RGB(COBALT) ,RGB(MIDGREEN),RGB(CERULEAN),RGB(RUST) Data RGB(FUCHSIA),RGB(BROWN),RGB(LILAC) 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Cheers Martin 'no comment |
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| LeoNicolas Guru Joined: 07/10/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 479 |
Hey Martin Thank you very much for the code and charset design. I'm still working on Knightmare. I will complete it before starting this new project. |
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aNdy/Cosine Newbie  Joined: 02/07/2024 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4 |
OutRun in PETSCII? Seems like a silly but fun idea! Quite original in a way. Good job I thought of it... https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=6404 |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
yes, silly but fun  In the meantime, the developer has released another Video on the status of development. 'no comment |
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thwill Guru Joined: 16/09/2019 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4036 |
I think @aNdy/Cosine is "the developer" - Hello to him  .Best wishes, Tom Edited 2024-07-02 20:09 by thwill Game*Mite, CMM2 Welcome Tape, Creaky old text adventures |
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| LeoNicolas Guru Joined: 07/10/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 479 |
Oh, nice to have you in our forum Are you thinking on making the source code open? I'm thining on re-create the game in MMBasic for fun. I'm already working on another game port to MMBasic called Knightmare https://github.com/leonicolas/knightmare-cmm2 |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
 sometimes I only understand something later...A warm welcome from me too  Cheers Martin 'no comment |
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| LeoNicolas Guru Joined: 07/10/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 479 |
I opened the web site from aNdy's post (https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=6404) It has a ton of ascii games developed by him. Pretty pretty nice. The OutRun PETSCII source is in C64 assembly. Super cool  |
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Rickard5 Guru Joined: 31/03/2022 Location: United StatesPosts: 463 |
Hi will OutRun PETSCII and PETSCII run on the CMM2 ? Thanks I may be Vulgar, but , while I'm poor, I'm Industrious, Honest, and trustworthy! I Know my Place |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
yes, well documented, but it looks like the source comes from the 2020 Demo Edited 2024-07-03 15:54 by Martin H. 'no comment |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
that would be difficult (I don't have a CMM2 so I have to rely on the manual) Many of the graphic effects are generated solely via the colours (for example the forward movement), and as I see it in the manual, the CMM2 does not have a separate tile buffer that can be selected or addressed directly. It is certainly possible but then with more programming effort. Cheers Martin Edited 2024-07-03 16:05 by Martin H. 'no comment |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4223 |
Martin, I will have to test but it is possible the CMM2 supports "in string" colors when you use OPTION LEGACY ON, like the CMM1 has. This is "teletext alike" color handling where the color is embedded as a character in the text string. Combined with the extreme speed of the CMM2 could work as well. But it would be a re-write of the engine. Regards, Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| aNdy/Cosine Newbie Joined: 02/07/2024 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4 |
Hello Thanks for the welcome. Ignore the other PETSCII releases on my CSDb profile in my signature. They are not games, only static PETSCII images of old C64 games; even the OutRun release in 2020 is a static image. The new OutRun PETSCII in development at present *is* a 'proper' game however. I've drawn all the graphics in my own screen editor which is capable of outputting data in a format needed for the assembler. Generally, I usually release all the assets and the source code with my games/demos. On the C64, the source is in ACME 6502 assembly. I've never coded a 2.5D racer before, so OutRun PETSCII has involved a lot of original code. To be honest, a lot of it is quite untidy and nothing short of embarrassing in places. I'm not sure I'd release it, but would be happy to assist or collaborate with anyone attempting similar on another machine. I've often thought about giving development a try on Pico8, but as I already develop on C64, Plus/4, Amiga and PC (as well as composing on Atari 8bit) and have multiple projects on the go, time is short. https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=6404 |
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| Martin H. Guru Joined: 04/06/2022 Location: GermanyPosts: 1113 |
Andy, after we (mainly Volhout) successfully translated Petscii Robots last year, we were naturally curious when you published the Petscii outrun video. Since we are working with the Raspberry Pico and MMBasic and have to reprogram the assembler routines anyway, a pseudo code describing which steps are processed how and when would be sufficient. The graphics, you created for the assembler would have to be translated anyway, since we can't use characters below chr(32) as the C64 uses in the screenmemory, I have placed them elsewhere in the ASCII code, but I think, I should be able to do the translation with a small script. The PicoMiteVGA does not have much to do with the Pico8. It is at its simplest a Raspberry Pico and a few components (a handful of resistors, a VGA socket, a converted SD/MicroSD adapter) all in all the cost is less than $10 to get started. Cheers Martin Edited 2024-07-03 22:56 by Martin H. 'no comment |
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| aNdy/Cosine Newbie Joined: 02/07/2024 Location: United KingdomPosts: 4 |
Thanks for the info! I've not used a RaspberryPi Pico. I have 4 RaspberryPi 3B's running various OS's and emulators and bits and pieces. I've never heard of MMBasic but looking at the manual, the commands seem pretty 'standard'. I have about a month of development left on OutRun PETSCII and will then then think about releasing the 6502 source, perhaps not completely open like I usually do due to it's aforementioned spaghetti nature, but to a handful of people serious about porting it! I'll check back here soon! https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=6404 |
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