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| dwyer Guru  Joined: 19/09/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 574 |
What Is this person is talk about??? WIND farms don't live up to the hype that they're an environmental saviour, Federal Agriculture Minister Peter McGauran said Their claims are fraudulent in regard to the environmental and energy terms." Mr McGauran said the giant propellers devalued land. SO what still Nuclear power still devalued land, nuclear wastes ,heath issue, lot of hidden information from the puplic do not know the truth This Minister also has no knowedge on engineering trades Dwyer the bushman |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
He's obviously an idiot, told what to say by John Howard. This is a typical approach by the Howard government. Its simple really, they want nuclear power. Now they say they will have a debate about it, but the fact is they have already made up their minds. Now all they have to do is send out bogus information about alternative power systems. When they "officially" decide to use uranium, they hope the general public has believed all the crap they said about wind/solar/wave power not been a viable option. See, the thing is "Jobs". Its all about jobs. A coal/gas/nuclear power station needs lots of man power to keep it running. Mining, processing, etc, its an ongoing process. The problem with wind power is once the windmill is built, the man power required is bugger all, just a bit of maintenance occasionally. So there are no "Jobs" in wind power. Now I'm not biased against the coal industry. I work for the coal industry. But I would prefer it if my electricity were clean. My 2 cents Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
I just read the article in the newspaper about his comments about wind power, including "wind farms are not a cleaner alternative to coal fired power stations". http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200606/s1674352.htm What is it with these people in government, are they really that stupid! Do they become politicians because they couldn't get a job anywhere else? Isn't there some sort of test to pass before you become a politician? Or is it they consider themselves smarter than the humble voter, and they think voters believe any old crap. The problem with the world is it run by people who have only one skill - They can speak utter rubbish and convice voters its fact. My extra 2 cents. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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Chris Senior Member  Joined: 12/09/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 146 |
I really really do hope we dont get nuclear power. Especially with all the terrorism problems lately. Could prove disasterous. Where would they build the nuclear plants? |
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Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1343 |
Right next door to the federal parliment so if the terrorists do target it Australia would be a better place for it. Just my 2.2 cents (gotta add g.s.t) Bryan  |
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| dwyer Guru Joined: 19/09/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 574 |
Chris wrote: Where would they build the nuclear plants? Right next door to federal parliment & where little johhny's nice home beside his bedroom looking out the bedroom windows 
Dwyer the bushman |
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Prof Newbie  Joined: 01/12/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 33 |
When one thinks about it, Australia is a wind farm and people like me are just part of it. Like many thousands of people in our country, I rely on a Southern Cross 8/30 to provide my water supply. Many rural people have wind generators as well to give them low cost, reliable and non-polluting energy. I may think that the "Agricultural" Minister has just made a fool of himself but why? The answer will be $$$$'s + 10%GST. "wind farms are not a cleaner alternative to coal fired power stations", "children overboard", "weapons of mass destruction", "there will never be GST" ?? Just give it some spin and sell it. I can only hope the Environment Minister and the Prime Minister don't come out and support him. Prof I know boats!! |
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makourain Senior Member Joined: 19/04/2006 Location: Posts: 111 |
[quote]Peter McGauran ... says wind farms are not a cleaner alternative to coal fired power stations[/quote] AAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| mink Newbie Joined: 20/04/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 3 |
Hi all, Some years ago my dad was involved with construction of Loy Yang B, I think (it was Morwell, anyway). His old bomb had just had a re-spray. He said that all the guys working there had thier cars sprayed at no cost because of the damage caused by the acidic atmosphere from the existing coal power station. Definitely a true story. Michael |
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| dwyer Guru Joined: 19/09/2005 Location: AustraliaPosts: 574 |
Hi everyone It about time the politcians wake up and l have copy from news this morning and have alook and what you think ??? THE Victorian Government has shrugged off the Bald Hills wind farm controversy and approved another similar project. The $80-million Naroghid wind farm, to be built mainly in cleared grazing land near Camperdown in western Victoria by New Zealand company Wind Farm Developments, is expected to power about 24,000 homes after it is constructed in 2008. The project's approval came despite an earlier move by federal Environment Minister Ian Campbell to block a 52-turbine wind farm in Victoria's South Gippsland, citing concerns about the endangered orange-bellied parrot. Wind Farm Developments spokesman Jonathan Upson said the company had sought an area free from controversy. "The wind regime on the coastline is definitely better, but our company looks for the least controversial areas where these projects are viable," Mr Upson said. He said the Naroghid site, where 21 turbines would be built on 600ha, was appealing because it was on a plateau that had good winds and was on an electrical transmission line. As the site was cleared grazing land there were no environmental issues, he said. Victorian government spokeswoman Claire Miller said there were no fears Senator Campbell would interfere in the Naroghid wind project. She said Senator Campbell "dealt himself out of the project" in June 2004 when it was shown the site did not pose environmental concerns. The project, which drew only 30 submissions during its planning, was not as controversial as the Bald Hills project, which drew about 1500 submissions, she said. Victorian Planning Minister Rob Hulls said the 42-megawatt wind farm would help the state reach its target of committing energy retailers to buying 10 per cent of their electricity from renewable sources by 2016. "The Bracks Government has consistently stood up for Victoria's environment and we have stood up for renewable energy as an important element in the energy mix of the future," he said.
So what is the name of the company and who are they ??? New Zealand company Wind Farm Developments. DWyer the bushman |
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| petanque don Senior Member Joined: 02/08/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 212 |
Perhaps this is a statement about how environmentally aware the government thinks some dairy farmers are. If wind farms don’t produce a profitable product (power) I would think that economics would suggest that they would stop being built very quickly. |
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