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| zeitfest Guru  Joined: 31/07/2019 Location: AustraliaPosts: 482 |
Are we in tech "Groundhog day" ? We seem to be at the same stage as about two years ago...repeating it. Plenty of hype as usual, I am starting to think there are zombie vendors as they seem to be active but not extant !! Personally I am getting sick of it. |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
Any particular vendors? John |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4222 |
Huh ? Please explain. Groundhog day ? Vendors ? Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 857 |
"Groundhog day" Same day keeps repeating |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4222 |
I found Groundhog Day, but I am missing zeitfest link to vendors. Is the STM32 series out of stock again? Volhout PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 857 |
Nucleo?  |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 9105 |
LCSC have them in the thousands |
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| zeitfest Guru Joined: 31/07/2019 Location: AustraliaPosts: 482 |
ads presented by Google on this bbs ...   ed - Is whitewizard or bigmik back as a seller ? Edited 2024-09-17 07:56 by zeitfest |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6097 |
Not Google ads. VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| Bleep Guru Joined: 09/01/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 509 |
Effectively, put there at the request of the users of this forum and not exactly intrusive. see this thread Edited 2024-09-17 17:46 by Bleep |
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| zeitfest Guru Joined: 31/07/2019 Location: AustraliaPosts: 482 |
No problem with the Google ads. A while ago there were some people supplying pcbs and/or kits. Jaycar and ALtronics did supply Maximite kits but did not continue into the Micromite or after. I think Grogster was willing to continue supplying small quantities mainly for CMM2 and Micromites but others like Circuitgizmos, whitewizard, bigMik all dropped out usually for health or financial reasons. It is worth reading this thread Now the processor platform has changed to pico and again to pico2, and we see ads implying that there is an ongoing pipeline, but there is not. So, the point is that although the processor has changed, the situation is basically the same or backwards. |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 857 |
For me, it's mind blowing what we can get for such little money (coming from an ex-boater  ). I remember the sticker-price for the IBM PC back in 1984.But here, we still get moans and groans about a few quid. The guys who attempted to bring these things to market don't stand a chance because there are costs that need to be covered. |
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| matherp Guru Joined: 11/12/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 9105 |
The world has changed. I (and others) post gerbers/BOM/P+P for all my designs and all anyone needs to do is open the JLC website and paste them into it to get fully built boards delivered to your door. No middle man needed and no markup. This can be most cost effective when a group (geographically based) gets together to buy more than the minimum order quantity (2). If we take the example of the CMM2, I've reworked the board to value engineer the design so that you can now order it fully built from JLC at a fraction of the price of the original. Alternatively you can order many of the boards through Grogster who takes the financial risk of ordering boards, packages them with boxes, end-plates, demo s/w etc. and sells them for a minimal markup as a service to the community. The situation is definitely not backwards - this is a hobbiest world and the tools at the individuals finger tips are now totally different from even 2 years ago. Edited 2024-09-17 19:11 by matherp |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
The various people who post gerbers, code & so on are incredibly generous and I think (hope) are much appreciated. Thankfully, doesn't remind me of Groundhog Day. John |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 857 |
Beyond words, John. Never had so much fun and totally addicted to this stuff and at it seven days a week, including holidays. Just wish I had the skills to contribute. Only receiving kinda sucks. |
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PeteCotton Guru Joined: 13/08/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 368 |
I can attest to this. I posted in another thread that I ordered five CMM2 boards, fully populated from JLC. It was a painless process (so painless that I assumed I must have missed something). They're due to arrive on Thursday, once I test them I'll post an update to that thread. Now to be clear, I know next to nothing about PCBs and how to order them, so if an idiot like me can do - anyone can. To be honest, even ordering five of them is exciting. I have a couple that are spoken for by friends and family, but at such a low cost (it worked out to about $60 Canadian per computer - that's $44 USD, 40 Euros or 33 quid) for a machine that is basically the modern BBC Micro on steroids, it's an absolutely staggering deal. Heck, even if I bought all 5 and only used one - it would still be significantly cheaper than projects like the Commander X16. Maybe I should make a multi-player game with a CMM2 dedicated to each player......  It'd be cheap enough to build. |
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| PhenixRising Guru Joined: 07/11/2023 Location: United KingdomPosts: 857 |
Pete, Remember before the internet, between the US and Canada we had those trivia terminals? Those were fun days. I have often wondered about sticking mini retrogame consoles in pubs where people can challenge each other. Much more fun than the phone stuff. Build 'em and lease 'em. (coming from the guy who has never played a video game ) |
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| PeteCotton Guru Joined: 13/08/2020 Location: CanadaPosts: 368 |
I have built quite a few arcade machines (for home use) over the last few decades. It has been an ongoing thought/dream to design/build ones with CMM2's inside. It's the perfect platform - and as long as you're not using anyone else's licensed IP (names, sprites etc.) - it's perfectly legal to put them in a pub/restaurant (with your own games programmed in). Making a pair/quad group for people to play against each other would be fantastic fun. The old Commodore 64 game "Spy vs Spy" is a perfect example of how this gameplay makes for a great time (setting booby-traps in rooms for the other player to trigger). Being able to do something like that with your own private screen would be even more fun. Edited 2024-09-18 01:53 by PeteCotton |
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| JohnS Guru Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3800 |
As far as I can see you _do_ contribute but in any case people who create things like MMBasic & gerbers etc generally speaking _want_ them used. It's especially good if the use helps test or identify additional functionality that would make things better. Speaking for myself, many years ago a user of something I wrote sent me a message that he'd put two of his kids through college using it. Great!! (I didn't charge royalties and it was a quite cheap thing to buy from me - and I did OK from it.) John |
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stanleyella Guru Joined: 25/06/2022 Location: United KingdomPosts: 2120 |
I got a https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204961040148 but not used as no mmbasic support I got a https://www.olimex.com/Products/MicroPython/RP2040-PICO-PC/open-source-hardware and do use it just because mmbasic supports it. if mmbasic supported the esp32 board would it be popular and would we be using it? this applies to many ground hog day boards and there's other films where time reoccurs |
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