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Gerad
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Posted: 10:36am 30 Mar 2024
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Hello
Does anyone have experience with PH measurement?
and/or EC measurement with Webmite?
Or know where I can find information?

THX
Gerad
 
NPHighview

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Posted: 03:11pm 30 Mar 2024
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Greetings, Gerad -

Is this the sort of thing you're looking for?

https://circuitdigest.com/microcontroller-projects/arduino-ph-meter discusses obtaining pH.

https://www.electroniclinic.com/arduino-hydroponics-diy-hydroponics-system-using-ph-sensor-ec-sensor-hydroponic/ discusses obtaining both pH and EC

You will need to substitute "WebMite" and "PicoBasic" for "Arduino", but the approach should be very similar.
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Gerad
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Posted: 07:20pm 30 Mar 2024
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Hello NPHighview

Thanks for your tip
I will try with micropython or circuitpython.

regards
gerad
 
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You don't have to do that! <<shudder!>> Just use the same circuitry, and pattern your code after their examples.
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stanleyella

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I bought this ph tester and it works but don't know how?? no batteries.
 
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Chemistry. 2 different metal electrodes, acid, creates a voltage. That is how lead acid batteries work.

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zeitfest
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This diy meter  may b worth a try...I was going to build the older version using a INA116 as was suggested, but didn't get to it. You will still have to read the 140mv output, and get the special glass+counter electrode combo as well. Precise work will need calibrations etc
 
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  Volhout said  Chemistry. 2 different metal electrodes, acid, creates a voltage. That is how lead acid batteries work.

Volhout

lead acid is one metal.
search 2 dissimilar metals
 
Mixtel90

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It's a single metal if the battery is flat. When charged one electrode is lead and the other is lead oxide. The electrolyte is then concentrated sulphuric acid.

A better example might have been a piece of copper wire and a zinc-plated nail stuck in a lemon. It's a very simple primary cell. The voltage will depend to some extent on how strong the lemon juice is. You can try copper and zinc in various electrolytes to see the change.
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stanleyella

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  Mixtel90 said  It's a single metal if the battery is flat. When charged one electrode is lead and the other is lead oxide. The electrolyte is then concentrated sulphuric acid.

A better example might have been a piece of copper wire and a zinc-plated nail stuck in a lemon. It's a very simple primary cell. The voltage will depend to some extent on how strong the lemon juice is. You can try copper and zinc in various electrolytes to see the change.

I think it's lead peroxide
hydrogen peroxide h2o2
hydrogen oxide h2o  
 
Mixtel90

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Sorry, it's lead dioxide. :)
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stanleyella

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and it's not concentrated h2so4 but drop this, who cares :)
 
Mixtel90

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Well, it becomes more concentrated as the battery charges and that changes the specific gravity rather conveniently, but yeah, lets. :)
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The electrodes look like copper and another metal. It might be a so-called "Clarke cell", using an antimony/oxide electrode. It was cheap and used for measuring oxygen levels, but depended strongly on pH, temperature, etc and had poor results.
Edited 2024-04-02 08:25 by zeitfest
 
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