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matherp
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Posted: 02:54pm 26 Jan 2024

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Please find attached a version of the PicoMiteVGA with USB keyboard support.

PicoMiteVGA.zip

Flash the firmware as usual
Connect a USB keyboard to the Pico USB connector using a suitable adapter
Power the Pico with 5V on the VBus pin (pin 40)
You can connect a USB-TTL converter as a console to pins 11 and 12 of the Pico (GP8=TX and GP9=RX)

The firmware will start as usual and assuming the connections are good will announce that the keyboard is connected. Connection works for me through a USB hub but the TinyUSB software may not support all variants

From there the firmware is pretty much identical to the standard PicoMiteVGA except for:

UPDATE FIRMWARE command is not available so use the boot button
PS2 functionality is completely gone as is support for the mini I2C keyboard

Supported keyboards (OPTION KEYBOARD code)
US (default)
UK
DE
FR
ES
BE

Others can be added a a later date given support from the relevant language users

Use OPTION KEYBOARD REPEAT firstmSec, sunsequentmSec
to set the repeat rate (default 600, 150)

New Function:
KEYDOWN(n)
Returns the decimal ASCII value of the USB keyboard key that is currently
held down or zero if no key is down. The decimal values for the function
and arrow keys are listed in Appendix F.
This function will report multiple simultaneous key presses and the
parameter 'n' is the number of the keypress to report. KEYDOWN(0) will
return the number of keys being pressed
For example, if "c", "g" and "p" are pressed simultaneously KEYDOWN(0)
will return 3, KEYDOWN(1) will return 99, KEYDOWN(2) will return 103,
etc. The keys do not need to be pressed simultaneously and will report in the
order pressed. Taking a finger off a key will promote the next key pressed to
#1.
The first key ('n' = 1) is entered in they keyboard buffer (accessible using
INKEY$) while keys 2 to 6 can only be accessed via this function. Using
this function will clear the console input buffer.
KEYDOWN(7) will give any modifier keys that are pressed. These keys do
not add to the count in keydown(0)
The return value is a bitmask as follows:
lalt ? 1, lctrl ? 2, lgui ? 4, lshift ? 8, ralt ? 16, rctrl ? 32, rgui ? 64, rshift ? 128
KEYDOWN(8) will give the current status of the lock keys. These keys do
not add to the count in keydown(0)
The return value is a bitmask as follows:
caps_lock ? 1, num_lock ? 2, scroll_lock ? 4
Note that some keyboards will limit the number of active keys that they can
report.

I intend to do a SMD design for this with an onboard USB-C for power and connection to the serial console via a CH340, with RTC, Amplifier based on a modified version of this.

Edited 2024-01-27 00:59 by matherp

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Posted: 04:30pm 26 Jan 2024

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hi Peter,
before rushing ahead with a PCB, you may want to look at adding a couple or three USB-A sockets along with an onboard USB hub (BigMik and I, along with others, tested several single-chip solutions). short pogo pins can be used to connect from the DP and DM pads under the pico to the hub chip.

with an onboard USB hub and the USB-A sockets, the user can then connect keyboard, mouse, and a second pico to act as a port expander. much of this work is detailed in the other thread:
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?TID=16545

i trust No0ne will also be added to the mmbasic copyright messages, as his work was the basis of this project.

oh, and please, no more CR1220 cells. the world uses CR2032's.

cheers,
rob :-)

matherp
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Posted: 04:41pm 26 Jan 2024

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Quote i trust No0ne will also be added to the mmbasic copyright messages, as his work was the basis of this project.

There is none of his code in the PicoMite - just CMM2 code added to the Pico Example

Quote oh, and please, no more CR1220 cells. the world uses CR2032's.

CR2032 take up too much real-estate

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Posted: 05:01pm 26 Jan 2024

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Hi Peter,

If you plan to make this a CMM1.5 , using the RP2040 chip, then maybe reserve pins to do RGB 2:2:2 palette mode.

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Posted: 05:11pm 26 Jan 2024

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Currently building this into PicoGAME 4. :)

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Posted: 05:14pm 26 Jan 2024

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Quote CR2032 take up too much real-estate

Consider a vertical mount cell holder.

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Posted: 07:22pm 26 Jan 2024

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...and SWE/Nordic keyboard option...pleease, if possible.

Pluto.

NB: Great developments as usual. THANKS Peter! You are faster than your own shadow.

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Posted: 08:19pm 26 Jan 2024

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After a quick test,it is worth noting that once this firmware is loaded, you cannot use the connect at 1200 baud method of getting into firmware update mode because the USB is not seen as a com port any longer. You have to use the boot button during reset or power up.

If your board doesn't have easy access to the boot button or pin, I suspect you will have to enjoy it as it now is.

A fine tipped probe should get you to the boot pin.

Jim

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matherp
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Posted: 09:52am 27 Jan 2024

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Here is a first cut at a layout for a CMM1.5 - just the components - nothing routed yet.

As per Vegipete's sugestion I've used an upright CR2032 mount but it looks very out of scale so I may revert to my favourite CR1220. Don't understand the issue with these. Widely available in the UK for pennies. The picture shows the DS3231 missing as JLC are showing no stock but LCSC have plenty so don't know why.

Schematic
d526a77b-1cb1-44b9-a0d7-183d33be6519.pdf

Price for 5-off fully built from JLC is just £66 + shipping. Bit cheaper than the CMM1 and CMM2!!!
Edited 2024-01-27 19:55 by matherp

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Posted: 11:15am 27 Jan 2024

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Last time I was looking for a CR1220 I could only find them from the big component suppliers (with silly postage charges) and ebay. Nowhere round here even knew that size existed. I'm not that reassured about "widely available". :) I agree though, the CR2032 is a monster.

Someone told me that the CR1220 is used in some car key thingies. If so, a car accessories place might be an idea. We haven't got one locally so I didn't try.

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Posted: 05:46pm 27 Jan 2024

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Could you check something on that circuit diagram?

If you follow the the signal from pin 4 of the volume pot, it is connected through a 10uF cap to L4, then in series through C37 to U9 pin 3.

This differs from the other channel. Pot pin 2 only leads through C39 to U8 pin 3.

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matherp
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Posted: 06:12pm 27 Jan 2024

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Quote Could you check something on that circuit diagram?

Thanks - it wasn't the only error in the amp circuit

I haven't found in EasytEDA how to cut and paste a circuit element from one design to another so I was copying by hand from a known working one but made a mess of it.

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Posted: 06:18pm 27 Jan 2024

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And U9 is powered between VCC and +5V.

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matherp
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Posted: 06:50pm 27 Jan 2024

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Quote And U9 is powered between VCC and +5V.

Hopefully now all correct and all routed ready to get built. Because I needed so much edge space I've got room for a flat mounted CR2032 to please the punters.

The PCB is 100x70 and double sided so current price at JLC is £1.57 for 5 - how can they make them for that?

Total price for 5 fully built less the RTC chip is £63.25 + shipping so £12.65 each

5fe4d051-105c-4f94-bc7d-ce5994dfde16.pdf

Edited 2024-01-28 04:55 by matherp

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Posted: 07:05pm 27 Jan 2024

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As always, in awe, but also:

Is it designed with any particular enclosure in mind ?

Best wishes,

Tom

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vegipete

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Posted: 08:11pm 27 Jan 2024

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Shipping is a bit killer, but these aluminum housings would be nice, except the side lengths are reversed.

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Posted: 08:21pm 27 Jan 2024

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Hi Peter,
If you were to order up 5, I'd be up for one, if you had any spare to buy. :-)
You can sort of see how the RP2040 geek can be sold for just over £8
Regards Kevin
Edited 2024-01-28 06:24 by Bleep

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Posted: 09:03pm 27 Jan 2024

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Cases are a pain, Pete. Really you have to start with a rough board layout to see where you want connectors then find a case that's readily available and that will accept connectors where you want them. Then you can start to design the board. Either that or simply accept that most people won't be bothered with a case (as I did with PicoMite VGA Basic and Sweetie-Pi.coMite).

This time round (PicoGAME 4) I'm opting for the CMM2 case, but even that's a pain...

I do like those aluminium extrusion cases though. I've built a couple of projects in similar ones. The screws for the end panels are a bit nasty (seriously? Countersunk screws in non-countersunk holes?). Much nicer if you can put some better screws in.

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Posted: 10:26pm 27 Jan 2024

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Hi Peter, All,

Just a suggestion if it’s not too late, add 2 pads in parallel with each of the screw jacks for internal speakers in case someone want them internal to the box rather than externally connected.

Regards,

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Posted: 10:38pm 27 Jan 2024

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1) They could just omit them and solder the wires on.
2) Turn them around so the wires are on the inside.

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