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LucV Regular Member  Joined: 19/02/2023 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 62 |
Ok Guys, As you might know I have written some books. A book about the ESP32. A book about the Raspberry Pi Pico and one about the Pico W. The last two use MicroPython as the language the first C++. In the mean time I stumbled upon PicoMite. I yet have to build my own PicoMiteVGA but already had fun with PicoMite. And then Peter build PicoMiteWeb. Wow !!! As my books cover the Internet of Things I was immediately interested. I however noticed that some forum members here threw the towel. They think that web based projects and html are too difficult. And maybe there are more members that think so but are afraid to mention it. So I thought maybe someone should write a simple guide on explaining what this is about and how to use it. You can make this as complicated as you like but I want to start very simple so anyone can join in. Until now I prepared 3 chapters: Chap-01.pdf The first chapter tells why IP numbers are important. Chap-02.pdf The second chapter tells how to obtain the PicoMiteWeb IP number. Chap-03.pdf And the third chapter shows how to build your first webpage. It is just a text and can be done with a simple text editor like wordpad or even MM Edit. As English is noy my native language there might be spelling mistakes. What I really would like to know is if there are enough forum members that would like me to continue. It is a lot of work and I would not spend too much time on this if nobody cares. So please state if you are interested. Most important is: Have fun Luc Luc's tech Blog |
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| JohnS Guru  Joined: 18/11/2011 Location: United KingdomPosts: 3805 |
Probably worth a quick mention of NAT. Also, why it's not possible to connect from the rest of the internet into the house side of the router using the 192... IP address. Plus, how to get around that. John Edited 2023-02-26 03:43 by JohnS |
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| Bizzie Senior Member  Joined: 06/07/2014 Location: AustraliaPosts: 191 |
LucV, I for one have really struggled with HTML etc. I look forward to read chapters 1-3 and any future productions. Rob White |
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| TrevorC Newbie  Joined: 15/07/2020 Location: United KingdomPosts: 14 |
Hi, Thanks for your first 3 chapters of your guide to the PicoMiteWeb. I am confused about the MQTT additions to the Pico as it seems useful but I am not sure where to start. Trevor |
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palcal Guru Joined: 12/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1873 |
I am one who was very interested but threw in the towel, its over my head so very interested to read and learn. Edited 2023-02-26 07:05 by palcal "It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" |
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phil99 Guru Joined: 11/02/2018 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2140 |
Yes, please! I have found learning HTML and adapting it to the capabilities of the PicoMiteWeb difficult for my tired old brain. |
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| Volhout Guru Joined: 05/03/2018 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 4250 |
+1 Please continue, there is much to learn.. PicomiteVGA PETSCII ROBOTS |
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TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6101 |
Many years ago Microsoft had a web publishing tool called "FrontPage" Easy to use and not too many extras to complicate things. They stopped releasing the program and I am yet to find an equivalent. Luckily my original CD still works and I was able to coax it onto W11. It is still easy to use and I don't have to resort to the HTML tab to get things working for my primitive requirements. An updated equivalent would be very helpful for beginners. Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| LucV Regular Member Joined: 19/02/2023 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 62 |
Hey Jim, Something like this ???? https://www.html.am/html-editors/online-html-editor.cfm Luc Edited 2023-02-26 09:57 by LucV Luc's tech Blog |
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| TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6101 |
Looks interesting. I don't like on-line tools but there a couple referenced that I hadn't looked at before so something to do. Thanks. VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| palcal Guru Joined: 12/10/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1873 |
I used Komposer a few years back and successfully got a web site up and running for our small golf club. If I could do it I can assure you anyone can...Komposer Edited 2023-02-26 13:58 by palcal "It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" |
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Grogster Admin Group  Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9308 |
I'd love to do webpage server things, but I am also one of those who doesn't really like the idea of learning ANOTHER computer language(HTML), so I would be interested in reading any more articles. I will have a read of the first three later tonight. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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Zonker Guru Joined: 18/08/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 761 |
I know basically nothing about much of it, but would like to get a starting "framework" that shows how to pass data from the Pico to the webpage and interacting with the page calls functions to make things happen inside the Pico program... Not even sure how to get into the router and allow the Pico onto my network... Will keep an eye on this thread... Much thanks LucV  |
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TheMonkeys Regular Member Joined: 15/12/2022 Location: AustraliaPosts: 59 |
I have some experience with HTML, CSS and Javascript (I spent a couple of years as a web developer). I'm playing with TassieJim's File Manager. Currently, it's one step away from working (I haven't added the line that actually performs the action(s)). What is possible is to have a page that updates without re-loading, using javascript to reduce the load on the Pico. I will admit, though, that for some reason it won't display more than 14 files. This is the properties form displaying its own source. I'm quite happy to explain how to make stuff work. Cheers, Chris.  Edit: Oh, yes. "current.bas" is the programme currently in memory, saved to disk when the server is run. Edited 2023-02-26 16:13 by TheMonkeys |
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| Pluto Guru Joined: 09/06/2017 Location: FinlandPosts: 359 |
I would certainly be interested to become a student at Luc's PicoWEB university! My experience in the WEB area is very limited. I made some attempts with ESP-01 modules some years ago. I the used Annex. It was a lot of trial and error; mostly error. I definitively need to learn more (also about this topic). Still waiting for my first PicoWEB modules to arrive. Please continue with the following chapters  /Pluto |
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| LucV Regular Member Joined: 19/02/2023 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 62 |
Ok guys by popular demand, here is chapter 4. Chapt-04.pdf This chapter shows how to build your first webserver and make it send a first web-page to your computer, tablet or phone. Sounds complicated and REALLY is not. Have fun Luc Oh, by the way. May I humbly and kindly ask forum members to start at new topic if they post something that is not directly related to these chapters/lessons. Then this thread will not clutter up. Thanks Luc's tech Blog |
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| cosmic frog Senior Member Joined: 09/02/2012 Location: United KingdomPosts: 284 |
Thanks for this, it is really helpful. Dave. |
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| TassyJim Guru Joined: 07/08/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 6101 |
The preferred way to trigger the server is by interrupt, not by polling. Peter change this at some stage. The remainder can stay the same. WEB tcp interrupt gotrequest ... sub gotrequest Jim VK7JH MMedit MMBasic Help |
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| RonnS Senior Member Joined: 16/07/2015 Location: GermanyPosts: 120 |
me toomy goal is to "Get" a Pic or a stream from my ESP32 Security Cam to the Picomite with Lcd Edited 2023-02-27 08:15 by RonnS |
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| LucV Regular Member Joined: 19/02/2023 Location: NetherlandsPosts: 62 |
Thanks Jim, missed that......... Going to add a small interim chapter on this before the next chapter. There are so many updates following eachother that it made me miss this..... Question though for anyone around. I am on version PicoMiteWebV5.07.07a20 And for one reason or another mm.info$(ipadress) gives an error. I read it in a post from Peter but does not seem to work anymore ??? Tried with $ sign and without. Luc Luc's tech Blog |
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