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PhenixRising
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Posted: 10:46am 27 Aug 2024
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Don't know if this has already been covered but:

I guess it's a bit dodgy

Bummer.....One guy suggested letting the RP2350 fully power-up and use a pin to enable the 5V regulator. Thoughts?
 
matherp
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Posted: 11:03am 27 Aug 2024
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The rp2350 is only 5v tolerant if powered. Applying 5v to an IO pin when not powered may kill it
 
Volhout
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Posted: 11:04am 27 Aug 2024
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My 5 cents:

In my vision it is: 5V tolerant (in all conditions) or NOT 5V tolerant.

You can invent all kind of complex systems, but the risk is you get into a situation not covered by the system. Then booom.

Just use 3.3V
There is a sh*tload of 3V3<->5V solutions for little money. And buffering signals is always good for robustness. 4050's, optocouplers, FET level shifters, Resistor dividers, 74LVCxxx gates....

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Mixtel90

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Posted: 11:18am 27 Aug 2024
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The Datasheet is quite specific.

Page 1384
Table 14.9.4
"IOVDD MUST be powered to tolerate input voltages above 3.63V"

in the same table
Input high voltage can be up to 5.5V ONLY IF IOVDD is 3.3V.

If you can't confirm that IOVDD is 3.3V then you have to design around all inputs only tolerating 3.6V.
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stanleyella

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Posted: 05:57pm 27 Aug 2024
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While awaiting pico2 delivery I can't help remember using arduino and it was 5V logic and ili9341  etc. was 3.3V logic and using bi-directional logic converters.
It was nice that pico2040 worked at 3.3V logic. hoping pico2 is the same.
 
Mixtel90

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Posted: 06:45pm 27 Aug 2024
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The Pico 2 is designed for 3V3 logic by default, so you'll be happy. :)
Apart from any changes to the firmware you'll find that it's pretty much like the original Pico, only faster.
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stanleyella

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Posted: 07:51pm 27 Aug 2024
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  Mixtel90 said  The Pico 2 is designed for 3V3 logic by default, so you'll be happy. :)
Apart from any changes to the firmware you'll find that it's pretty much like the original Pico, only faster.

that's all I'm hoping. if inbuilt faster speed and don't mess up existing then faster is better. great for sloppy coders, who cares, it's faster :)
jokin,I spend effort making code faster
Edited 2024-08-28 07:19 by stanleyella
 
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