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zeitfest
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Posted: 10:50am 02 May 2024
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A few years ago there was a "Extreme" Micromite I think ? 100 or 144 pin at that.
Based on a pic32MZ EF 2048 I think. At 200 Mhz and heaps of memory etc the hardware is still reasonable but pricey. Is there a MMBasic for it ?
 
TassyJim

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Here is one link
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?TID=10158#113858
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Here is the manual
The Manual for it
 
panky

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A new updated version of the manual can be found here

Doug
... almost all of the Maximites, the MicromMites, the MM Extremes, the ArmMites, the PicoMite and loving it!
 
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Managed to trim down the size of the manual so the latest cut is attached.

Micromite eXtreme Manual_v0.20.pdf

Doug.
... almost all of the Maximites, the MicromMites, the MM Extremes, the ArmMites, the PicoMite and loving it!
 
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The latest version I am aware of is 5.05.04 from here

The thread with other details is here

Doug.
... almost all of the Maximites, the MicromMites, the MM Extremes, the ArmMites, the PicoMite and loving it!
 
Frank N. Furter
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The latest (beta) version should actually be V5.07.00b0:
https://www.thebackshed.com/forum/ViewTopic.php?TID=16185&P=1

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zeitfest
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Thanks  
 
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5.07.01b5

End of that same thread...

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zeitfest
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My impression is, there are no hardware suppliers active ?
 
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More tidying up of the manual -

Micromite eXtreme Manual_v0.23.pdf
... almost all of the Maximites, the MicromMites, the MM Extremes, the ArmMites, the PicoMite and loving it!
 
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AFAIK there is no-one selling MMX PCBs at the moment. Is the chip even available at a sensible price now?
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Preliminary MMBasic docs & my PCB designs
 
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@ zeitfest, if you are looking for MM.extreme I may have something lying around, I used to build up everything going to give me something to do. I know I built a couple, I will see if I can dig them up.
"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all"
 
zeitfest
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Many thanks !  (edited) although, I am not trying to get boards.
The reason I asked was that I designed and built a  small pcb pcb for the pic32MZ some time ago.

It runs ok and I am pleased with it, it wasn't specifically designed as a MMX / eXtrem platform but looks like it runs it OK using alternate serial io pins.
So I am wondering if it worth a final tweak to connect the standard io pins, which should make it ok for MMX.
I might do it anyway as an exercise, but I doubt it will go anywhere.


Most projects here seem to go the same route : someone has a good idea, invests time and resources, puts it on TBS, maybe Silicon Chip puts it "design ideas" section...it then gets steamrollered/superseded by similar aim projects by people with apparently infinite resources, and a month or so later there might be a kit project in SC,  at a kit cost that quite deters people, or no supplier at all. That then bypasses and obliterates any real commercial or mindshare future of the original project...Net effect, backward.
Edited 2024-05-06 12:24 by zeitfest
 
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There are a wide range of MMX PCB designs 144-pin, 100-pin, 64-pin posted on TBS but they all suffer from the fact that the uP chip would need hand soldering and this is perceived as too difficult by many

If the MMX was to be seriously revived then a PCB design with a proper BOM and CPL that could then be manufactured by JLC would be a pre-requisite. Just posting gerbers doesn't solve the soldering issue.

Then you have to ask why? The STM32H7 is twice as fast as the PIC32MZ for the same price. The STM32 IDE/Compiler is free (the PIC compilers are expensive) and the PIC IDE is much harder to use. I did bring the MMX source up to a reasonably compatible and modern version (5.07.01b5) but don't intend to invest more time in it.
 
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Posted: 05:45pm 21 Oct 2024
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from time to time i can read in this forum something about pic32 microcontrollers (i still love to work with my colour maximite 1) and i think the mips architecture is not so bad. now i see something in the internet:


https://www.hackster.io/news/microchip-shares-some-wi-fi-wealth-with-20-new-iot-parts-including-the-pic32mz-w1-family-227bd0e81369


i do not know the quality of the article.
 
hhtg1968
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wrong link?? hopefully right now...

link
 
JohnS
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The PIC32MX was great (solid implementation etc).  The PIC32MZ has great features but the software tools and pricing aren't among them, sadly.

Give me PICO or STM32 instead.

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