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Grogster

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Posted: 04:45am 02 Dec 2023
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It happens to us all!  

One of the CMM2_G2 boards I got back from them.
All the other boards are fine - I checked.







Look carefully at the photos.
No, those pins are NOT supposed to be bridged.  

I could not work out initially, why this board flatly refused to talk to the cube programmer, no matter what I did.  When I put it under the microscope, all was revealed, and it was the "A-ha!" moment.

I COULD moan to JLC about this, but it is the first board with any pin bridging I have EVER got from them out of close to 100 CMM2 boards I have had them make since the CMM2 design was released, so it would be a little petty of me, when a dab of flux and a quick drag-solder movement, completely cured the issue, and then the board programmed just fine.

I am surprised though, that the AOI(automatic optical inspection) process as part of the factory QC, did not detect this and reject the board.

Ah well.  It's not a problem in any event.
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bigmik

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Posted: 05:45am 02 Dec 2023
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Grogster,

You made my heart skip a few beats with the Topic, I currently have a set of boards in the "snail mail trail" on its way to me.

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Mick (the Big one)



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Mixtel90

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Posted: 08:07am 02 Dec 2023
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In a way it's nice to see that even the big lads can make a c**k up of the job - just like I do. :)  The main difference is that I do it all the time...  :(
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Grogster

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@ Mick - I wouldn't worry.  JLC have been VERY consistent and reliable with both their plain PCB's, and also their SMD assembly process.  I'm sure your boards will be fine.

I just posted the thread to illustrate that even factory production can get it wrong from time to time.

As I said, I COULD moan about it to JLC and send them the photos, but it was mere seconds to fix the bridging myself, so I am not worried about it or ordering SMD assembly from them again.

What actually raised my eyebrows more then anything, was that the AOI did not detect it - AOI is usually pretty good at picking up on those sorts of faults.
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Mixtel90

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Posted: 10:50pm 02 Dec 2023
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That surprised me too. I wonder if the one they used only checked for component rotation or something?
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toml_12953
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  Grogster said  It happens to us all!  

I COULD moan to JLC about this, but it is the first board with any pin bridging I have EVER got from them out of close to 100 CMM2 boards I have had them make since the CMM2 design was released, so it would be a little petty of me, when a dab of flux and a quick drag-solder movement, completely cured the issue, and then the board programmed just fine.
Ah well.  It's not a problem in any event.


You should at least tell them about it. It might be a problem with a wave soldering machine or some other equipment that could be corrected. They can't fix something they don't know about.
 
Grogster

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You have a point, Tom.
But I would have thought that with the number of PCB's they assemble, if there WAS a problem with one of the machines, they would have reports of that by now.

But you still have a point.  I might do just that in my next order, just for their information.  It did not bother me, really.

But someone who does not do any SMD work, it would affect them more, as they would be unwilling, I guess, to reflow the situation themselves.  
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