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TassyJim

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You are right
Save resets the undo buffer and you have to save to send the file.
Sorry
Jim
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Malibu
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  Quote  Save resets the undo buffer and you have to save to send the file.
Sorry


No probs  
It's just a generic question... I can work with it
It makes sense on what I can see happening.
Thanks  
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G'day Jim,
A couple of things I've found :

1)...
I toyed with backup interval on the preferences settings. I set the path and the interval, but after a while, I decided not to use it.
I cleared the path and saved the settings again.
MMEdit seems to keep the old backup settings and I keep getting my files backed-up.
Attempt 1 - Clear path, but left the interval : Path returns, interval remains as-was
Attempt 2 - Clear path and interval : Path returns, interval is set to 0

2)...
Thinking that the above issue might have been needing a restart, I did one to see what happened.
My previous files opened, plus 'changes.txt' for some reason - which I browsed through and saw this:
  Quote  V5.2.7
Mar 2024
Fixed rare bug in MMCC which caused instant shutdown

I'm running 5.2.9, and I've had a number of instances (a dozen, maybe?) where MMCC shuts down for seemingly no reason.
Thought I must have 'done something' to cause it, I just started back up and kept going again. Reading your changes, maybe the bug is still there?

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None of the above is a deal-breaker, just a heads up for you  
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Regarding the backups.
An interval of 0 should prevent backups occurring.
The first line of the backup sub:
If backupTime > 0 And backupfolder <> ""

There is a problem with not being able to clear the backup folder. Fixed in the next release.
A backup time of zero is definitely stored correctly here and is all you need to inhibit the backups.

There is another bug which causes a close of MMCC and I think I am getting close to nailing the cause. I can't make it happen, but I can do things that make it more likely to occur.

Jim
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  Quote  If backupTime > 0 And backupfolder <> ""

I manualy edited the .inf file and removed the backup path, saved it and reloaded MMedit. The path element is now "" in the settings menu.
The backup interval remains at 0, even when I delete that as well. Defaults to 0 value, I guess. I'm pretty sure on the 1st install, it was "", but could be wrong.
I'll see what happens and let you know  

Sorry Jim, didn't really take note of what I was doing when the MMCC closed down, but I'll pay more attention now and forward the info along - hopefully, that'll help.
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Update: Setting path to a NULL seems to have done the trick. No more backups, with interval still showing 0
Looks like a blank path entry is not being saved.

Sorry Jim... I can't 'unsee' this now  


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Hi Jim,

Bad news. I recently installed Ubuntu on a new (2'nd hand) laptop, and the flavour was Ubuntu 22.04. All my previous installs where Ubuntu 20.04.

In 22.04 the qt5-default library does not exist anymore (the WebKit is stille there). For some reason Debian has dropped the qt5-default, and therefore Ubuntu does not provide the qt5-default anymore.

There are work arounds that require you to compile the package (manually) yourself, and  create the dendencies, but I am not up to that. So for now I will return to Ubuntu 20.04. But long term you will either have to drop the MMEdit linux version, or you need to find a different graphics library (qt6 ? flutter ?).

Since there is no immediate need, I will leave the laptop with 22.04 comming months, and keep using the 20.04 one, just in case you need me to do some tests on this more recent linux.

Sorry for the bad news,

Volhout

P.S. This may also be applicable to Mint 22.
Edited 2024-11-12 17:31 by Volhout
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TassyJim

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I have posted a question on the PureBasic forums and there might be a solution.
I will also set up a 22.04 VM to test with.

I have a few other distractions at the moment so it might be a while.

while we wait, you could try the developer versions:
sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev qttools5-dev qtmultimedia5-dev qtdeclarative5-dev libqt5svg5-dev libqt5webkit5-dev libqt5multimedia5-plugins


Jim
Edited 2024-11-12 19:29 by TassyJim
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Volhout
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Jim,

In essence above works, but there are error message about the use of wayland. So I am not sure this is a solution that will be solid enough. I will test run it a bit.

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TassyJim

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PureBasic forum gave me this link
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404263/how-do-you-install-qt-on-ubuntu22-04
It looks like all we needed was
sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev

I will try that once I set up a clean VM

Linux is not very good at backwards compatibility

Jim
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  TassyJim said  Linux is not very good at backwards compatibility

Jim

Linux is great at it - things on top like Qt quite often suck :(

It's people who just can't be bothered to keep compatibility even though it probably wouldn't be hard (for them).

(BTW happens with MMBasic too but at least it gets better, I'm not so sure Qt does.)

I happen to have just been suffering a Qt5/Qt6 issue myself! Grr :(

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QT has been a bit of a pain for years. :(
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TassyJim

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I chose qt because I was having too many problems with gtk2/gtk3

qt also made it easier when developing for Windows and Linux. That may just be the tool-chain I use, but there are fewer special cases needed compared to gtk.

The problem is not with qt, it's Ubuntu 22.04 deciding that users have to jump through hoops to continue using qt5

"qtbase5-dev" did the trick

Jim
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