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Grogster

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Posted: 08:23am 11 Jul 2023
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@ Mick - you might like this reasonably new(2023) four-part doco series on BMC/BLMC that I found on YouTube recently.

WELL worth a look for ANY fan of the BMC/BLMC stuff.
FOUR parts.  I link you to part one here on this thread, but you should be able to follow your nose to find the other three parts.

This is, I thought, an EXCELLENT doco on the history of BMC/BLMC, with LOTS of historic film footage.

Death Of The UK car industry - PART ONE...

I have to admit to being more then a little sad at the demolition of Longbridge over time.   The same fate probably happened to Cowley - I need to look that one up.
Edited 2023-07-11 18:27 by Grogster
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Rickard5

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Posted: 01:12pm 11 Jul 2023
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All this Talk of the British Motor Industry is causing me Great Pain and confusion, as I Shared somewhere else. I am a WhitWorth Abuse Survivor, and I will never understand to my last breath HOW/WHY a people that can create such beauty like the E-Type, the Sprite, Lotus Super 7, and so many other neat Vehicles will fill them full of such ugly engineering. I mean COME ON Love ya all but that BSA Cured me of ever wanting another English Motorcycle (Except a Vincent) It Scares me that a people can Give the world such wonders like Felicity Kendal and Sarah Jane Smith, then turn right around and torture us with Jaguar
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stanleyella

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Posted: 01:32pm 11 Jul 2023
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3 wheelers where classed as motorbike and sidecar ??? they probably more stable.
Drive on your own with L plates ???
It wasn't a Morgan 3 wheeler but they were made of wood.
RR caught fire and nothing left :(
After Brish bikes I got a Honda cb250. Er.. electric starter, twin carb not amel, Jap.
overhed cams, chain driven not push rods. A rev counter and a speedo. Twin leading show brakes.
pissed all over British bikes. same as the suzukis did then.
I inherited my Dad's Honda Civic 32 years ago and with rev counter, twin carbs,5 speed gears was pretty cool at the time.
a robin would sell at auction for lots now. a bond bug would also be worth lots.
 
stanleyella

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Posted: 01:45pm 11 Jul 2023
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The best british bike was not norton commando or triumph Bonneville it was bsa bantam.
I had a green one with old rear suspension, 125 or 150cc at 14 and road it over fields. I had a go on the 175cc 4d4 bantam and that was nippy on par with a jap 2 stroke.
Edited 2023-07-11 23:47 by stanleyella
 
Volhout
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Posted: 02:30pm 11 Jul 2023
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@Rickard

Most of the things you complain about are developed in post war (WW2) europe.
It is a blunt miracle they where developed at all.

True that quality was significantly increased last decades (driven from Toyota's methods).

But "ugly engineering" may not be the right wording for the E-type, Lotus 7 etc.. You simply had to design around what was available (both materials and knowledge).

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Mixtel90

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Posted: 02:56pm 11 Jul 2023
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You have to take into consideration the sort of market that BL had. They wanted to sell into the British market, so their cars were designed with relatively small engines, tight turning circles and fairly hard suspension. They also had to keep costs down as the UK has traditionally had a lower disposable income and much higher fuel costs. US cars were generally higher powered and designed for much longer journeys. Many of them couldn't get round some of the corners in one go in the UK though! They also cost a fortune to run over here. It was a case of fitting the engineering into the available space.

It sounds strange hearing about "a WhitWorth Abuse Survivor" from someone in a country that still grimly hangs onto feet and inches (decimal inches at that - they can't make their minds up) instead of embracing the much easier metric system. :)
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stanleyella

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  [ said  QUOTE= in a country that still grimly hangs onto feet and inches (decimal inches at that - they can't make their minds up) instead of embracing the much easier metric system. :)

America used dollars and cent since 1792 but still imperial system.
ten bob notes, a tanner, 2/6 p. ,shillings,halfpenny,farthing.
8 pint to a gallon. beer is still sold in pints and burgers are quarter pounders :)
 
lizby
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  Mixtel90 said   a country that still grimly hangs onto feet and inches (decimal inches at that


Not for carpenters, though--it's still fourths, eighths, and sixteenths. Even in metric Canada, lumber and frequently, measurements, are in feet and inches--1x6, 2x4-8', 4x4 posts (inches), 4x8 plywood (feet), etc.
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stanleyella

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It must be strange for younger generations to hear about imperial.
a pound of flesh, keeps a ten bob note up his nose,a penny for your thoughts..
don't seem the same in metric.
 
Rickard5

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  Mixtel90 said  You have to take into consideration the sort of market that BL had. They wanted to sell into the British market, so their cars were designed with relatively small engines, tight turning circles and fairly hard suspension. They also had to keep costs down as the UK has traditionally had a lower disposable income and much higher fuel costs. US cars were generally higher powered and designed for much longer journeys. Many of them couldn't get round some of the corners in one go in the UK though! They also cost a fortune to run over here. It was a case of fitting the engineering into the available space.

It sounds strange hearing about "a WhitWorth Abuse Survivor" from someone in a country that still grimly hangs onto feet and inches (decimal inches at that - they can't make their minds up) instead of embracing the much easier metric system. :)


First Mick my apologies for taking us off Topic, but the British Auto industry Could have been bigger than the Japanese, except for some unfortunate choices like Whitworth with it's 55 degree pressure Angle that has considerable loss of holding force, fatigue resistance and strength compared to Nation Fine Thread The Much more Nimble and smaller British cars were very attractive here except their poor reliability, things like the SU Carbs and Lucas, and most especially the HIGH Cheese content in British Steel. heck there are Many British sports cars I'd rather have. and most British cars were way more Expensive in the UK than Basic US cars in the US!  

and as a DUMB TEXAN that grimly hangs onto feet and inches (decimal inches at that) instead of embracing the much Evil  metric system. I will Never embrace the Metric system, I will work with  in the system when forced but Never will I "Embrace" it
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