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Lapsy Senior Member  Joined: 28/01/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 103 |
Has anyone heard or know of this thingy I have heard of..... Dunno what it is exactly but heard an idea recently about a tazer type device that can power itself. I heard something about something about how a tazer uses batteries (low power) to create high power. I hear there is an invention where a small bit of power or something kickstarts a bigger surge of power that can then quickly recharge the inital low power which in turn keeps the bigger power going and then never stops apparantly for ever or something and you have free power until you turn it off. I think this would be cool because you could plug stuff into it (probably). Hope the above was not to technical for you. Ha! Cheers..... P.S Spill the beans or whatever... Sounds a bit like an altenator reading that back! Guess it harnesses high energy somehow? This is my signature ---> Scribble, scrawl, a bit of light pencil shading, some indelable ink and a bit of caligraphy. |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Laws of thermodynamics say such a device cant exist, you must put energy in to get (less) energy out, always. Thats why things like magnet motors, gravity motors, etc dont work. But there may be some truth to the rumor. Devices like tazers spend a lot of time hanging on a policemans belt, and are subject to movement. They could incorporate a moving magnet and coil set up, like those torches you shake to charge, to keep the tazers battery charged. A tazor can create high power for a very short time, but only needs low power over a long time to charge. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| MOBI Guru  Joined: 02/12/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 819 |
Yet another perpetual motion version. Oh, come on now!! d.m David M. |
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yahoo2 Guru Joined: 05/04/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1166 |
What about if you drag the feet along the shagpile carpet then zap the cat when it's sleepin in front of the fire, I bet that would release some pent up energy.   I'm confused, no wait... maybe I'm not... |
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Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
Im not too sure on Glenns theory either? most cops i see dont move fast enough to generate enough motion to charge their tazer, i just have this vision of a copper shaking his tazer like mad to charge it while some 200kg bikie it trying to rip him a new one. I do like the cat experiment, although it sounds like you have well tested the theory of this one. Sometimes it just works |
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| yahoo2 Guru Joined: 05/04/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1166 |
 Have to lie about the scars, hot babes love it more when I replace fire with creek and cat with stinkin great CROC!I'm confused, no wait... maybe I'm not... |
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| Lapsy Senior Member Joined: 28/01/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 103 |
Don't know where the shake n charge feature came from, but sounds alright anyways! Such a thing cannot exist but what if it has not been invented yet? Then I suppose you cannot say it does not exist if what doesn't exist does not exist for you to think and say that it doesn't, because then I think you cannot make a comment on it if it is not there, although I think I already did initially starting this post? So really it is there but is isn't sorta thing is that what you are getting at, is it? (Hahahaahah....) Anyways, What about the idea of something that is high voltage, then charging something like a battery at a superhigh speed because it can, or something, which in turn keeps the other going. My terminology is of the highest standard in the land! I might start writing textbooks for schools don't you think? It might speed up learning because there are less big words to get confused, and will save on paper and make the books thin. Genius! Only fill it with words that are no more than 5 characters in length. Merry Christmas all by the way! This is my signature ---> Scribble, scrawl, a bit of light pencil shading, some indelable ink and a bit of caligraphy. |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Nah, still cant exist, ever. No invention can break the laws of science. If its a scientific theory, then there is a possibility you may find a way that proves the theory wrong, but once a theory becomes law, then thats final ( usually ). The laws of theromodynamics ( look them up, interesting stuff ), which govern this type of thing, are proven and have been used in engineering and manufacturing for decades. If you invented something that broke the law, then everying else we've build using those laws shouldn't work! Basically, if you want to get energy out of a "device", then you must put more energy in. And nothing is 100% or more efficient, so you always loose. Merry Christmas to you too. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| Privatteer Newbie  Joined: 09/06/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 39 |
Sounds like you might be referring to the Bedini motor that has been doing the rounds since 1980's. Putting it simply if you could really charge 4 batteries from 1 there would not be any coal fired power stations anymore. Its a pretty scam that relies on people with no electrical knowledge thinking that as soon as the voltage of a battery reaches the float value it is charged. Anyone that says otherwise is welcome to mail me a working unit so I never have to pay another power bill again  |
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| Warpspeed Guru Joined: 09/08/2007 Location: AustraliaPosts: 4406 |
Some people seem to get very confused between tapping into an existing free energy source, and energy spontaneously created from absolutely nothing. Cheers, Tony. |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
This do exist, TRUE! If you wish to prove it, try spilling you coffee on the wife's new carpet, and watch the spontaneous reaction, but like all things each action has a reaction of equal effect, this might be witnessed as cold meals and a cold night spent out with the dog. Sometimes it just works |
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| Lapsy Senior Member Joined: 28/01/2012 Location: AustraliaPosts: 103 |
Ok so the other option is to steal electricity I gather, then it is free I suppose. O.k then, what if it did not run off batteries then? Say it was water powered from a continuous source or something, as if I had loads of slaves working for me and I just crack a whip and the energy begins. Make that female slaves, skantilly or skanky clad, overly keen to be bricklayers sort of thing, but without loosing their womanly figures. Those that do shall be un-en-slaved. No.... hold on... that won't work.... dammit, guess your all now stuck with women that look like men until such times. O.K what if loads of people dragged their feet on the carpet together, and then tried to power a stove because they were hungry? What is the deal with static electricity? Can it be harnessed for the greater good of hairdressing? Surely everyone should be sticking baloons to walls in random places? I always thought an alternate lifestyle was turning to solar power and actually sticking it to the man. Not getting a face piercing and confusing people by leaving them wondering what set of genetailia your rocking. I think thats getting laughed at by the man! I wonder if white people will eventually live in jungles with elongated ear lobes and the tribesmen turn metro and start taking tips from media and magazines? Also - What if the small battery kickstarted the bigger battery which in turn kicks over another battery, or even something that isn't a battery? E.G Battery push starts a windmill which pushstarts something else.... dunno? I think I am 100% efficient at sleeping in. It is the surrounding area that is inefficient. haha This is my signature ---> Scribble, scrawl, a bit of light pencil shading, some indelable ink and a bit of caligraphy. |
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Wombat Regular Member  Joined: 27/05/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 72 |
Such an interesting thread.. 
The best female slaves are the ones that don't know that they are!! 
Great theory, only a little more work needed...
You could double, if not triple the potential energy of a battery by pushing it off a cliff!!
Try to catch that power!! 
Hahaha... Russ P.S. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.  |
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norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Have a suspicion you fellows are infected with mango madness. Thought it was a disease that exists only in the mango picking season up here in the north around Xmass. Those lovely female Swedish backpacking casual workers(slaves)that pick the mangoes must pass it on, than you folks buy the product. If you don`t believe in perpetual motion machines you haven`t seen them picking 
Anyhow we`ve survived the 12th than the 21st than Santa, trust you all have a great 2013. We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Yes, but its not easy, and again, its not free energy. I once built a Winshurst machine ( look it up ), it's a static electricity generator and could throw some impressive sparks. It was hand cranked, and one thing I noticed is the more static electricity I drained off it, the harder it was to crank. No free ride, even with static electricity. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
Hmmm, do we really need to see the return of shagpile carpet and plastic soled shoes to generate power. Sometimes it just works |
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| yahoo2 Guru Joined: 05/04/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1166 |
DONT panic everyone, I have the best mad geniusii on the case. Even as we speak, Widget is in her workshop with her wiggle wrench whipping together the wondrously wild "mango-o-matic 3000" 
That should free up some babes ...Ahem... I mean itinerant employee's, to work extremely closely with myself on this alternative energy project of world changing importance.
Keep it up lads and lasses, perfecting the efficient sleep-in, big batteries falling from cliffs... on a rope.... that turns a windmill, the moggie powered static accumulator, its all good stuff. We are almost there, I can feel it, so close. You know the old saying "free energy is not easy energy, you have to work hard for it". The last big project I worked on was dehydrated water, the Govt pulled the plug on us, years of research down the drain, they just washed their hands of the idea, it sunk without a trace. Said the world was not ready for dewatered water.  put us on ice, they did!
What's that pet? glass of water? Oh, for my tablets, thanks! cheers!  I'm confused, no wait... maybe I'm not... |
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| norcold Guru Joined: 06/02/2011 Location: AustraliaPosts: 670 |
Here it is from the North. The Lutec1000, been around awhile. [URL=http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cairns.com.au%2Farticle%2F2010%2F08%2F10%2F121755_local-business-news.html&ei=MKTbUPGNMaaemQXF8oCABg&usg=AFQjCNEklcqBPcYEYmHXXpIA4cz_ThMV1Q] If I got this link wrong just Google Lutec1000 We come from the land downunder. Vic |
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| greenenergyexp Newbie Joined: 28/12/2012 Location: United StatesPosts: 3 |
This thread reminds me of a joule thief circuit. You can't get something from nothing, but you can get something from what many people would look at as being nothing. Essentially they are a homemade voltage booster. You can use them to power LEDs from "dead" batteries. They also can be used to boost solar panels in low lighting conditions or wind turbines when the wind is low. A trickle charge is better than no charge at all. Here's a video I found the other day of such a circuit: http://youtu.be/cROjBk_F8yM That guy has some other interesting videos as well. They also have potential in running LED lighting. This is an experiment I conducted a few days ago. The apparent brightness is the same, but the current draw is much lower. The circuit requires some tweaking, but shows a lot of promise. |
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| Downwind Guru Joined: 09/09/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2333 |
A better way is to use capacitor doubler, as has been adopted here by many, if you search this forum you will find all the information about the development and use of the cap doubler. The joule thief has been around for donkey years in one form or another. Perhaps we can all make lemon batteries and use a joule thief to power our led lighting. Theres a challenge for you to test if that will work, one might say a "fruitful" way to free energy. Sometimes it just works |
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