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MacGyver

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Posted: 07:18am 21 Sep 2014
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I'm a firm believer in the laws of physics, but this has me stumped. Anyone care to comment on how this might actually work?

Note to Glen: Please allow a few comments on this one before you boot it. You and I are on the same page as regards "free energy" but there has to be some logical explanation why this appears to work. I'm sure Bob can figure it out, but it's beyond me. If it starts attracting the Free-energy clowns, by all means take it down. I know you've asked not to post that stuff and I hope this doesn't violate the rules:


FREE (?) Energy

. . . . . Mac



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Bub73

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Posted: 08:49am 21 Sep 2014
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Mac,
That is static corolla coming off that pad mounted transformer you were playing on.
and yes the courts have ruled it belongs to the power company!!
Some one from your local power company will be around to see you.
What you are building is similar to the original TESLA Pierce Arrow car!
Tesla himself said there is nothing new!
You have to put something in to get something back. no no free lunches !
If you take a probe off your meter one in each hand you should get a reading .
Bub & IsaiahEdited by Bub73 2014-09-22
 
MacGyver

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Posted: 09:24am 21 Sep 2014
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Bub73

I have quite a history of building stuff that doesn't work, so to be clear here,I'm not building anything. I saw this on Youtube and wondered if anyone had an explanation. Clearly (to me at least) the video shows all this being done out in the open, which is not to say it wasn't shot just under a 69-KVA power transmission line. They pull a lot of crap on Youtube, so you never really know.

I "assumed" that ferrous thing he stuck the magnets to was a trash can; it looked more like a trash can in a public park than a pad-mounted transformer. Besides, if that were the case,how did it work on the picnic table or being held in the air and walking around? I suspect there's more to it than that, but I'm not ruling out trickery for sure.

I'm hoping the thread stays up long enough to garner more comments; I expect Glen to take it down sooner or later, because it draws the wrong crowd, but I didn't know anywhere else to post it. I've learned to trust the guys' knowledge on this 4m.

. . . . . Mac
Edited by MacGyver 2014-09-22
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vasi

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Posted: 09:38am 21 Sep 2014
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That is easy. We had some cases in Romania. Some homes had an aerial high voltage power line crossing over their roof and they were able to light the bulb using a Yagi dipole. Very dangerous but they had free energy... until they were busted and a measurement unit was placed to their electrical grid.



Read the comments there, they point it to the high voltage grid. No tricks. Edited by vasi 2014-09-22
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BobD

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Posted: 10:00am 21 Sep 2014
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I agree with Vasi about the explanation. It's easy to get induced energy when under high voltage power lines. My wife's son and I used to light a fluoro tube under power lines in his back yard. We used to occasionally sit down there at night (away from the women) having a few beers and the tube used to give good light for us.

However, the explanation with the video points to a location in northern Netherlands where there is a car park and open fields. No obvious power lines. There is a light pole nearby which is probably connected to underground power lines. Strange that the author talks about miles when he is in Europe. It's likely to be a scam.
 
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Yikes! This always happens. I should have spent the day researching this, but instead, I took the easy way out and posted it as a question. Sorry, guys.

APPARENTLY, that little pigtail at center coil, is made to look as if it is "soldered" onto the coil, when in fact, it is wrapped with mylar, because it HIDES a battery pile beneath it. That means the coil is two pieces of wire with a clip at each end. One clip is the + end of the wire and the other clip is the - end; simple enough.

The neodymium magnets are merely a method to draw your attention away from what is actually happening, which is nothing more than a simple electric circuit.

Too bad, because back in the day, when I was bound and determined to build myself a miniature axial-flux alternator, I purchased a ton of those little magnets. I thought, great, finally something to use all those magnets on. As it is, I currently use a couple of the circular arrays as a method to keep some metal doors closed against the wind.
Ho, hum . . . . GLEN: SORRY FOR THE BOTHER, BUT TAKE IT DOWN, PLEASE.


. . . . . mACEdited by MacGyver 2014-09-22
Nothing difficult is ever easy!
Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman,
"Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!"
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isaiah

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Posted: 10:52am 21 Sep 2014
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If you watch that video close when it comes to that container you will see on the right hand side of it is where the wires come in from under ground ,its only visible for a very short time.
It may not be a transformer but there defiantly something coming up out of the ground to hook to it!
It is not a trash can.
You also can see a right angle adaptor for the wires or hoses to go in the big green thing.
I thought that was you Mac didn't know you pirated the video.
Isaiah
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Gizmo

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Posted: 12:16pm 21 Sep 2014
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Yeah I hate these things.

First up, like magnet motors, gravity motors, etc, etc, etc, its a fake. There are a bunch of scientific laws that say why it wont work, the same laws that explain why things do work. If the laws were wrong, then just about every machine we use every day would not work.

Secondly, once you know it must be a fake, the fun bit is trying to work out how they did it. A bit like watching a magic trick, and working out how it was done. I've seen this one before, and I think a little button battery has been hidden either inside the device, or inside the multimeter and motor. The battery is in series with the circuit. Other videos I've see have no audio content, meaning a blast of air from a off camera source can be used to make things spin.

Thirdly, the people that post these videos, and dont say it was a fake, need a smack to the back of the head! While it may be a challenge to make a fake that looks convincing, it also leads to many many people thinking its real, disregarding good science, trying to make their own, and been disappointed and embarrassed when it doesn't work.

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Pete Locke
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Posted: 09:20pm 21 Sep 2014
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...And also, how do you get a DC permanent magnet motor to rotate being fed AC. Always have a chuckle at these people who are trying for fame in a totally impossible realm. Interesting though, the video directly below the one linked shows how it's done . Simple really. I once saw a program where this magic man made a jumbo jet disappear. Must have been true. I saw it on the net .
 
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After posting my topic earlier about a micro-hydro system using compressed air instead of water, i thought i would have been attacked relentlessly!!

A psi of water is equal to a psi of air. Difference is in volume. Which weighs more, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?

Also i am using a compressor that is hooked to the same battery pack that i am charging. Compressor normally used to power air horns on big trucks. 12 VDC
 
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I think you've posted this in the wrong thread jmccull.
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norcold

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Posted: 03:44pm 31 Oct 2014
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If we attacked your topic relentlessly, would you have been satisfied? If you search through topics on 4M you`ll find the subject of perpetual motion has been fairly well covered, is that you are suggesting? no doubt but if you have the answer you will be a rich man.
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  jmccull said  

A psi of water is equal to a psi of air. Difference is in volume. Which weighs more, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?




Can you please try this?

Stand somewhere under where you have an accessible landing or balcony some distance directly overhead.

Then get a friend of yours to drop a pound of feathers on your head. Fun, wasn't it?

Now, repeat this experiment with a pound of lead.

If you were quick enough to dodge that and it only hit your toes you still will have learned a valuable lesson.

A pound of whatever equals a pound of lead? Not when either is doing some work
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