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Forum Index : Other Stuff : Plastic Waste to oil
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| VK4AYQ Guru  Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi everyone, I was sent this information by a friend who is a fellow conversationalist and I thought I would pass on the information to the Forum as it has a use for most of us and there is no shortage of waste plastic in our environment. While it uses electricity to salvage the oil the return is worthwhile, but considering all the efforts to produce a effective dump load, this could be ideal, as the heat generated does something useful. All the best Bob The machine produced in various sizes, for both industrial and home uses, can easily transform a kilogram of plastic waste into a liter of oil, using about 1 kW·h of electricity but without emitting CO2 in the process. The machine uses a temperature controlling electric heater instead of flames, processing anything from polyethylene or polystyrene to polypropylene (numbers 2-4). Comment: 1 kg of plastic produces one liter of oil, which costs $1.50. This process uses only about 1 kW·h of electricity, which costs less than 20 cents! http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm 2011-12-08_081936_plastic-to-oil-brochure.pdf Foolin Around |
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MacGyver Guru Joined: 12/05/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 1329 |
Thanks Bob! I wonder if concentrated solar could power this or if the temperture parameters are too tight for that? I also wonder how they crack off gasoine, kerosine and diesel. Is it all done with one unit or does it take more than one to separate each product? My guess is this process is the same as is used to distill methyl alcohol from wood chips by burning the wood inside an air-tight vesse and distilling the vapors. I think one of us should build one and post it on the 4m. I'd volunteer, but my plate is pretty full right now. How 'bout you, Bob? Edit: typos . . . . . Mac Nothing difficult is ever easy! Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman, "Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!" Copeville, Texas |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Mac I will be looking for a suitable container in the future to give it a try, as there is no shortage of waste plastic to experiment with. I think solar direct heating would be not a proposition however heated oil may be suitable, what I was thinking was more along the lines of a solar dump load as a couple of KW could be available in the summer. From what I see in the video it would need 350 C and that would be achievable with some old oven heating elements. The oil as distilled looks to be suitable as a diesel fuel oil, maybe need blending with a bit of distillate or oil to get a reasonable viscosity, if engines can run on old cooking oil this should be a lot better. After WW2 fuel was short here in Australia and my uncle used clarified animal fat as fuel for the tractor, diesel engine of course, it was started on distillate and when hot switched to fat. Also the irrigation did a lot of running on fat, I can still remember that as a child in 1950, it did have a distinctive smell though. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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Greenbelt Guru Joined: 11/01/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 566 |
Hi Bob Interesting machine, If i Were younger I would think about buying an old Barge and set up a couple steam powered generators, and one of their larger units, Sail out to where the four winds meet to that great rubbish Island in the pacific Ocean. Here I would burn drift wood to power the Gen's and refine the million of tons of plastic bags and plates and dishes. Sail back to port with 20,000 gallons of fuel oil. after a little R & R back to the ugly Gold mine in the pacific. after a couple trips I could afford another machine and and a work force to do the Labor etc.etc. -----Cheers , Roe Time has proven that I am blind to the Obvious, some of the above may be True? |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Roe great idea mate, I would like to do that too, but the problem is all my get up and go got up and went, maybe if some of the young ones with tons of go would get into it it would start to clean up the mess, problem is their get up and go is for chasing women that results in family and chasing kids and by the time the kids go and start the cycle again there is a limited window of opportunity we tend to miss out on. Nice to dream on though. All the best Bob 
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| MacGyver Guru Joined: 12/05/2009 Location: United StatesPosts: 1329 |
Bob Is that you? Nice hat. Nothing difficult is ever easy! Perhaps better stated in the words of Morgan Freeman, "Where there is no struggle, there is no progress!" Copeville, Texas |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Mac Not me mate just a look alike to make the point. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1344 |
Eh Bob, With my shed array it spends most of the time dumping load into a converted water heating element rewired for 24 volts. I have measured the temp and yes it does get to around 400C. I can easily seal that dumpload into a brass tube and I do have a 30 litre SS pot I made for my still's. So for me it wouldn't be too hard to set it all up and see just how much crude I can get. The fun part will be how to convert it over to a useable fuel though. The big problem with these idea's to clean up the environment and make OIL is as soon as one makes a taxable product the black coats would be knocking demanding a huge payout every week. Anyway if this idea does hit I do wonder how many guy's that have bought commercial still's will go from making moonshine into making their own oil..... Cheers Bryan |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi bryan Sounds like you are half way there wit what you have, Someone pinched my SS still while I was working overseas so am a bit behind the eight ball there, I will have a mate of mine who recycles SS have a look in his yard to see if has anything useful. He got me a 200 ltr SS pressure vessel a couple of months ago but that is earmarked for a house heat boiled for winter. From what I can find it can be used as a diesel replacement as is. As for the black coat men we wouldn't want to worry them with the small amount for personal use. The issue is if you start selling it, it then becomes a moot point. A few ltr a week made by dump load would be a handy amount. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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| Bryan1 Guru Joined: 22/02/2006 Location: AustraliaPosts: 1344 |
G'day Bob, Well if I do and do it I won't be putting it on this forum as FRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGLE has taken over. But I do have to say Thank You for putting this onto me. It is a great idea and in my situation I can make it possible. Anyway any progress I do on this will be published on the FL forum Regards Bryan |
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| VK4AYQ Guru Joined: 02/12/2009 Location: AustraliaPosts: 2539 |
Hi Bryan I look forward on your progress with this as I think it has a good potential to provide fuel from a waste product and clean up the environment a bit as well Keep me in the loop please. All the best Bob Foolin Around |
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