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| govertical Guru  Joined: 11/12/2008 Location: United StatesPosts: 383 |
https://youtu.be/LGNtCVeEDj8 Real or fake? just because your a GURU or forum administer does not mean your always correct :) |
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Gizmo Admin Group  Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
Its FAKE. Of course its fake! There is no energy source? Magnets are not a energy source. Magnets are like springs or gravity, they can exert a force, but need external energy to reset to the original state. You can wind up a spring to power a clock, it will run for a time, but then needs external energy to restart the cycle. Gravity on a weight can be used to drive a mechanism, but then you need to apply energy to reset the weight to its original height. Magnets can also apply a force to attract or push an object, but need external energy to reset to the object to its original location. It ALWAYS takes more energy to reset these devices than the energy you got out. Therefore you can not use the energy extracted from these devices to reset them, as you have less energy than you started with. If these devices did work, physics as we know it would now work, and therefore most of the machines we use would also not work. Last time I looked, physics was working just fine. Stop wasting your time. The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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| joebog1 Senior Member  Joined: 07/11/2015 Location: AustraliaPosts: 114 |
It probably works, BUT I noticed that it was slowing towards the end. MORE to the point, is it seems it only JUST overcomes the friction of bearings ( hinges) etc. There is a crazy old man in this town that has "free energy machines". After starting them with a DC welder they run for half a day, BUT DONT generate enough power to overcome the friction, and eventually stop!! In other words, JUST as Einstein predicted, you cannot "MAKE" energy, just convert it from one form to another. To take that statement further, lets assume it does work. Magnets DO NOT last forever, but become weaker over time, especially without a "keeper" across/shorting the poles. It must stop at some stage. Take into account the massive amount of amps required to make a "modern" super magnet ( rare earth etc ) WILL you even make back the energy consumed in making the magnet??? If you want to discuss philosophy, I have a question to ask!! What frequency is gravity??? best wishes Joe |
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| Gizmo Admin Group Joined: 05/06/2004 Location: AustraliaPosts: 5078 |
I see you've ignored any advise and have tried to build one like in the video. Here's a prediction - it wont work! But dont let that stop you wasting your time and money. Sorry to be blunt., but these magnet motors and gravity motors get me angry. Why? two reasons. 1. People should be smarter, have a better understanding of science and not be so fast to reject the laws of physics because they saw a video on youtube. Those laws govern everything in our world, and if they were wrong, we wouldnt exists. Magnets and gravity ( and springs and mechanical advantage ) are not a source of energy. They can be used to convert one form of energy to another, but you need to put energy in to get (less, always less ) energy out. Dont be so naive, youtube is full of fake videos and its dead easy to make your own. Never trust the internet, its 95% lies. 2. The people who post videos of "working" magnet/gravity motors need to be strung up by their testicles, they are inconsiderate arse holes! They post a fake video of something that can not possibly work, and they dont care that people will be gullible enough to believe its a working device, and then waste their time and money trying to build their own magnet/gravity motor. Youtube is full of videos of people trying to build a magnet motor that didnt work, even thought they built it just like one they saw working on youtube. I think thats the issue that bugs me the most, the "victims" of fake vidoes. They see a pretty convincing video of a magnet motor, ignore what they learnt at school science and spend their time and money trying to build their own. Its a waste and a loss. Glenn The best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago, the second best time is right now. JAQ |
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Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9306 |
I think the key thing here, is that we are never shown what is behind the board that everything is mounted on - such as a low-torque electric motor driving the big disc, which can easily be stalled at the start and end of this video.. Elementary physics tells us that there is no such thing as a free lunch. ALL these free-energy concepts are completely impossible unless you are prepared to ALSO completely throw out all the laws of physics as we know them. Conclusion: This is bollocks. Yet YouTube is almost INFESTED with free-energy videos.  I remember one really GOOD video on YT, where the guy was explaining to a class of kids about that whole free-energy bovine excrement. He had a Smart-Drive motor attached to a bicycle. Peddling it spun the Smart-Drive motor, and generated 230v. OK, fine.  Then he got one of the kids to pedal the bike, and started switching things on that were connected to the Smart-Drive motor. It got harder and harder to pedal - just as you would expect. When the teacher switched on the 2400W heater, the kid just stopped peddling - it was like someone had put the brakes on.  There's that energy exchange thing. You MIGHT be able to have some kind of motor thing that can generate a voltage, but to be USEFUL it needs to be able to sustain a load, and as soon as you put one on it, the voltage drops right back, or goes immediately to zero. Free lunches don't exist, and I too get so angry at those YT videos. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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| Pete Locke Senior Member Joined: 26/06/2013 Location: New ZealandPosts: 181 |
Free energy vid's (you tube top contender)? Bring 'em on. A good nights entertainment I say. We all ( well, those with at least half a brain) know they are bull sh*t. The entertainment part is sort of like trying to work out a magic trick. The "How did they do that" All crap but well amusing  . After all. It's all in the presentation. Just as any fairy tail is |
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| Grogster Admin Group Joined: 31/12/2012 Location: New ZealandPosts: 9306 |
You have a point. Still, I 'Dislike' those videos along the same lines as Gizmo me thinks. Smoke makes things work. When the smoke gets out, it stops! |
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