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brucedownunder2
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Posted: 09:15pm 18 Aug 2010
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Just got my electric bill ..

I have a 1 Kw solar installation ..

My total rebate for 66 days is 26Kwh @ 0.52 cents which equals $13.52.

So my savings are about 20 cents per day ..

Now , am I right in thinking my solar output during the day supplements the usage and if I turn everything off then that 26 Kwh's would be over and above what I actually used?.

Bruce
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VK4AYQ
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Posted: 04:38am 19 Aug 2010
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Hi Bruce

I had my meter fitted 10 days ago and the results so far are encouraging.

Total usage 85 KW
Solar feed in total 38 KW
Dual voltage mill feed in 15 KW

Rebate amount 19 KW

The reading is positive most of the day except while cooking as I have gone back to electric cooking as an experiment to see if it is a proposition now the price of gas has gone up. Gas was going at $1.30 a day, compared to 62cents a day last time I checked it several years ago.

This is off the 1KW fixed unit averaging 600 watts hr during the day.

The way my meter works is as you suggest, while there is solar input less than the usage at that instant the solar supplements the power, when their isn't any power drawn by the house it goes into solar feed rebate, at my place the average house use for the day is 350 watts per hour, according to the power meter. That draw is the computer and two fridges and the battery charger 15 watt.

All the best

BobEdited by VK4AYQ 2010-08-20
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KarlJ

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Posted: 01:24pm 20 Aug 2010
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Bruce
idea to get the best out of the FIT is use as little as possible during sunshine hours.
the bigger the system the better the payback as more will get fed in over the "base load" of your house.
Reduce the base load to min possible, turn off standby power suckers etc.

mine is as follows for the past few days
expresed as used from grid / fed in to the grid
total generation i have elsewhere and watching a movie right now, perhaps later

11 /6
12 /10
13 /17
0 /16
9/11
9/14
6/15
7/20
10/7
weather hasn't been great hence the low fed in amount

Cheers Karl
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fillm

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Posted: 09:15am 21 Aug 2010
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I must have a different meter set up , I have a meter only for the solar and wind and it is read seperatly and credited on the power bill , I get 20c a kW/H for the feed , the house is on a seperate meter and the hot water on another , the solar is deducted of the total bill.

The way I understand it here in Qld , you only get the high feed in tariff if your input is higher than your usage , if not you only get 20c a kW/H.


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VK4AYQ
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Posted: 10:34am 21 Aug 2010
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Hi Phill

The meter they fitted to my place is a composite meter it is a digital one with a number of readings for each section of power supply and back feed in on all three phases.

It gives total usage which is the total power from the grid, it has total feed into the system by the solar etc, it tells the amount of power fed back into the grid over the amount used on an instantaneous basis. It gives a reading of the amount fed in over the used amount as a credit amount, this is credited at 50 cents a KWH. The amount used is charged at 20 cents a KWH

Readings after 12 days. meter fitted Tuesday the 12 th to today Saturday the 21 st.

No machines run in this period so the usage will be a bit higher normally.

Total usage from grid 105 KWH $21.00

Input Total solar and wind 52 KWH Wind mill 16 KWH Solar input 36 KWH

Rebated amount 42 KWH $21

Total bill for the period $00

The wind input is measured by a separate line feed meter.

All the best

Bob
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maha22
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Posted: 09:11am 24 Aug 2010
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Most of those sites are just one step above a scam. They generate most of their income from web traffic. If you build your own panels, you will not be allowed to connect them to the electric grid, they are not UL listed. You'd need to buy enough batteries to take your house or room off-grid, if the electrical inspector will even allow you to install them on your house. You still need to buy an inverter, and mounting and safety equipment. The panels are just part of the expense, not worth it to make your own for anything other than a hobby or experiment. Do you think you'd be able to make something yourself that can withstand the elements for 40 years?


Gizmo is watching you.Edited by Gizmo 2010-08-25
 
dwyer
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Posted: 10:01am 24 Aug 2010
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Maha22
we dont build your own panel we buy the panel first

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joyt12k

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Posted: 09:22am 06 Sep 2010
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I have a 1.5Kw setup and .36 from wind. My smart meter was installed last Thursday
however no instructions on how to read it. It's three phase, does anyone know how to read it? In Perth we pay .17c per unit and get back .47c
jasmine
 
VK4AYQ
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Posted: 01:07pm 06 Sep 2010
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Hi Jazmine

Im not sure if my meter is the same as yours but here is how mine works

First menu that reads is 001 total usage, then 05 1 phase, then 10 2 phase then 20 third phase.

040 is the total amount of rebated KWH

Sum of the three phases is the total KWH of solar feed.
Not sure yours is the same though

All the best

Bob
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joyt12k

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Posted: 11:57am 07 Sep 2010
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Thanks Bob, I'll check it out tomorrow, did'nt know there was a menue I was too scared to touch anything.
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VK4AYQ
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Posted: 10:44pm 07 Sep 2010
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Hi Jasmine

There should be two buttond to the side of the digital readout one will be sealed with as company loop seal and the other one steps through the menu.

All the best

Bob
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Steve9R

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Posted: 09:36am 29 Sep 2010
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  VK4AYQ said   Hi Jazmine

Im not sure if my meter is the same as yours but here is how mine works

First menu that reads is 001 total usage, then 05 1 phase, then 10 2 phase then 20 third phase.

040 is the total amount of rebated KWH

Sum of the three phases is the total KWH of solar feed.
Not sure yours is the same though

All the best

Bob


On mine its 013 that is the total rebated KWH...

and ive seen other meters that look identical to mine with different readings too.. it just depends on the wholesaler as to how they configure them....so its best to ring them..

Steve
 
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